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DoD Secretary opens all military jobs to women

Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:58 am
Posted by NYNolaguy1
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:58 am

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Defense Secretary Ashton B. Carter said Thursday that he is opening all jobs in in combat units to women, a landmark decision that ends a three-year period of research with a number of firsts for female service members and bitter debate at times about how women should be integrated.

The decision opens the military’s most elite units to women who can meet the rigorous requirements for the positions for the first time, including the Navy SEALs, Army Special Forces and other Special Operations Units. It also opens the Marine Corps infantry, a battle-hardened force that many service officials had openly advocated keeping closed to female service members.



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“There will be no exceptions,” Carter said. “This means that, as long as they qualify and meet the standards, women will now be able to contribute to our mission in ways they could not before.”


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Carter said that the chiefs of the Army, Navy and Air Force all recommended that all jobs be opened to women. The Marine Corps recommended that certain jobs such as machine gunner be kept closed, but the secretary said that the military is a joint force, and his decision will apply to all services.

The issue has at times opened an uncommonly public rift between senior military leaders. In particular, Navy Secretary Ray Mabus took issue with a Marine Corps study that found that the average woman struggled to keep up with men, according to a number of metrics. The study did not track individual performance, drawing fire from Mabus and others in favor of full integration


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Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16573 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:00 pm to
Dumb but not surprising.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 12:01 pm
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:00 pm to
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as long as they qualify and meet the standards


I might be OK with this as long as they don't lower the standards
Posted by SabiDojo
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:00 pm to
Looks like I'm going to have to fight ISIS myself.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20895 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:02 pm to
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I might be OK with this as long as they don't lower the standards


Which standards? The one for men or women?
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117709 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:03 pm to
Lots of women will be getting taken hostage and raped by Muslims now.


I hope Ashton can deal with that.
Posted by Doosh606
The DC
Member since Apr 2008
3232 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:05 pm to
I would be fine with it like a previous poster said IF the standards were the same. That being said they aren't and they won't be in the future. Still pisses me off how much more I have to do on my PT tests to score the same as them.


M-60s don't magically get lighter because the person carrying it has a vagina.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 12:07 pm
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:07 pm to
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Lots of women will be getting taken hostage and raped by Muslims now.


You obviously have never met a female Marine... They can be be just as hardcore as their male counterparts.

If they can do the job without special accommodations/standards then by all means go for it shipmate
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15409 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:07 pm to
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I might be OK with this as long as they don't lower the standards


No possible since few to no women could meet much of the current standards for the elite military programs.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42568 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:09 pm to
Since we are going this direction, everyone should have to join the selective service. You can't single out young males.
Posted by Swoopin
Member since Jun 2011
22030 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:09 pm to
This administration has been one giant liberal "change for the sake of change" nightmare.

I've never once been surprised by their ability to place pragmatism over political correctness.

Him greenlighting killing OBL (which he had no choice on) is his only accomplishment I'm on board with.
Posted by Corch Urban Myers
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:10 pm to
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117709 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:10 pm to
lol nerd

WM's are some of the most disgusting creatures on earth.


Nobody wants to bang them. Nobody.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20895 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:12 pm to
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No possible since few to no women could meet much of the current standards for the elite military programs.


Don't forget the whole purpose of this was to make a more "diverse" fighting force. The point is that Carter is trying to insert women in combat roles for non-combat reasons. It's not about their performance, its about them being included. This will not end well.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20895 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:17 pm to
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Since we are going this direction, everyone should have to join the selective service. You can't single out young males.


This. I would love to see the reactions on SJW's faces if that comes down. It won't of course, because they will say its not fair somehow.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:17 pm to
"No. Have you?"
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:19 pm to
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If they can do the job without special accommodations/standards then by all means go for it shipmate



but can they?

Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17138 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:21 pm to
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lol nerd

WM's are some of the most disgusting creatures on earth.


Nobody wants to bang them. Nobody.


most of the time, they like to bang each other...
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124232 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:21 pm to
They call it "progress"





I call it Neutering.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117709 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:23 pm to
Yep.

Had one attached to our unit named Martinez. Bitch was hot as frick from the neck up.

I think somebody banged her once. But he was drunk.
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