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re: Do you think it's possible an advanced civilization existed billions of years ago on earth

Posted on 1/24/26 at 11:47 am to
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 11:47 am to
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So academia didn't make those "people" discoveries?
You mean the ones that still demand that civilization is only 10,000 years old?
Posted by Nonc me
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:04 pm to
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Just started thinking about it bc i saw an article about cave drawings from 67,800


What the heck was they drawing with ? Rust oleum painted graffiti only lasts a couple decades
Posted by OKBoomerSooner
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:28 pm to
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Or humans could’ve survived an asteroid or ice melting flood event in very tiny numbers. Only a few hundred survive and that could be enough for a reboot.

On a scale of a billion years, no chance, IMO.

Granted, maybe OP just meant "billions of years" as "an indefinitely long time ago." Hope I'm not talking past you or taking it too literally. But without clarification I stand by no way lol.
Posted by bignuss18
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 4:11 pm to
So the suggestion is slave labor is an alternative solution to mathematical perfection?

Again, I don’t disagree, it’s just incredibly hard to believe
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 4:19 pm to
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So the suggestion is slave labor is an alternative solution to mathematical perfection?
Not sure what you're saying here.
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 4:40 pm to
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Take a look at all these massive stones on these huge sites in Peru and Egypt and Syria. We couldn't do that to this day.

What stones are you referring to? I’ve never heard of any that I couldn’t move and position with a few thousand slaves.
Posted by bignuss18
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 4:44 pm to
I said the stones are so perfect it perplexes scientists to this day. You said that those who built and aligned them had enough time on their hands to ensure they are perfect to our modern mathematical standards.

I’m merely asking if you think those who had the time on their hands to do so (slaves in my opinion) had the ability to do this. I don’t, it’s too hard to believe.

If it was, why did we employ NASA to perform the moon landing? Based on your logic, slaves could’ve built the Saturn rockets because mathematical features can be accomplished through manpower rather than intelligence
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 4:46 pm to
The Baalbek stones for starters. One of those is over 3 Million pounds.
Posted by bignuss18
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 4:48 pm to
Yes you have. Scientists cannot understand how the stones of the Jupiter temple in turkey were built even with slaves.

Explain how the Jupiter temple was built, in exact detail please. Step by step, not your 30,000ft view opinion. I would like an exact run down from an expert, like yourself
Posted by Macintosh
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 4:49 pm to
Idk about billions but there’s evidence that suggest there was 10000+ years ago
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:15 pm to
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I said the stones are so perfect it perplexes scientists to this day
It isn't perfect.

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 (slaves in my opinion) had the ability to do this. I don’t, it’s too hard to believe.
So because some cant fathom that the Incas could do it it has to be aliens, time travellers or a previous advanced civilization that used only stone? No, it was the Incas and time.

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If it was, why did we employ NASA to perform the moon landing? Based on your logic, slaves could’ve built the Saturn rockets because mathematical features can be accomplished through manpower rather than intelligence
This makes no sense as an analogy. Plus, while the Incas were building the site, they were using their engineers and other skilled folks, not just laborers.
Posted by bignuss18
Member since Sep 2025
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:41 pm to
To modern standards, it is. You can’t even fit a piece of 8x11 paper in the gaps of the stone

I never said it wasn’t the Incas, nor did I say it was aliens, time travelers, or an advanced civilization. I’m simply saying it is an anomaly that needs further explanation.

Yes, it is an accurate analogy, relative to the known technology of each scenario and era.

You’ve shown zero proof in your very strong opinions that you apparently have conviction on. Please show proof. It’s a simple request. Inb4 you ask me for proof, I don’t have any, again, I’m simply addressing the fact the engineering is relatively advanced and needs further analysis to fully understand how it was facilitated. You seem to be an expert. Educate me
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:47 pm to
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The Baalbek stones for starters. One of those is over 3 Million pounds.

But it was never moved.
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The remaining three are Roman monoliths, not part of a larger structure, conventionally known as the "Stone of the Pregnant Woman" (estimated at 1,000 t), the "Stone of the South" (est. 1,242 t), and the "Forgotten Stone" (est. 1,650 t). These are the first, third, and tied fifth largest known stones ever quarried in human history. They are believed to have been intended for the nearby Jupiter Baal complex, possibly as an addition to the Trilithon; but, perhaps due to their size, they were never removed from their quarry.


The smaller ones were all moved downhill. Sounds very doable with enough slaves.
Posted by Clark14
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:51 pm to
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Do you think it's possible an advanced civilization existed billions of years ago on earth


I don’t know how long ago but I lean toward believing there have been civilizations more advanced than ours who didn’t entirely survive due to a catastrophic event.

Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:18 pm to
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You can’t even fit a piece of 8x11 paper in the gaps of the stone
I've read that but it seems to be something repeated after one person said it.
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I never said it wasn’t the Incas, nor did I say it was aliens, time travelers, or an advanced civilization. I’m simply saying it is an anomaly that needs further explanation.
Good. Its not really an anomaly as we see people from around the world were capable of making great structures.
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You’ve shown zero proof in your very strong opinions that you apparently have conviction on. Please show proof. 
Proof of what, the the Incas built it? Im not the one(maybe you as well) making fantastical claims about it.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:24 pm to
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Explain how the Jupiter temple was built, in exact detail please. Step by step, not your 30,000ft view opinion. I would like an exact run down from an expert, like yourself

First, I’m not an expert. Second, They were all moved downhill and did not need to be lifted. Until recently no one could figure out how the roman cement was made to be so durable. That didn’t make it magic. Eventually they discovered that it was volcanic ash that was the key ingredient. Same with the stones. It would be a lot more difficult for modern engineers to do it without modern equipment because we don’t have a thousand years history of moving big things with rudimentary tools, but we would figure it out.
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:37 pm to
One time I foundt a billion-year-old Nintendo game.
Posted by jizzle6609
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 5:17 am to
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I’ll admit to clicking on this thread specifically to find these replies so I could tell you that you’re wrong and we know exactly how these things were made/moved and we absolutely could do it today


Care to share?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 6:34 am to
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If it was, why did we employ NASA to perform the moon landing? Based on your logic, slaves could’ve built the Saturn rockets because mathematical features can be accomplished through manpower rather than intelligence


You are almost perfectly arguing why believing advanced civilizations using stones doesn't make sense and you don't even realize it.

Something like the NASA mission required math, materials, and scientific understanding that civilizations who used stone were not capable of. That's exactly why these civilizations used....stone. The problem with stone is its weight, which can be solved by manpower and far less advanced math/scientific understanding. Otherwise, it's completely manipulatable by unsophisticated societies, which is exactly why you see it so commonly used by less sophisticated societies.

The good thing about stone is that it can last a LONG time, which is why there is such a robust history of discovery of stone structures by archeology.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 6:38 am to
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Care to share?




Ancient Egyptian Pyramid Building Technique Reveal By Wally Wallington

LINK

That's just one random guy, but he shows how moving these incredibly heavy objects can be done by one guy.

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