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re: Do you think Great Apes could eventually evolve enough to have their own Stone Age?
Posted on 6/26/25 at 10:35 pm to northshorebamaman
Posted on 6/26/25 at 10:35 pm to northshorebamaman
Honest question, are there any theistic evolutionists in here. Does anyone believe in both creationism and evolution?
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Posted on 6/26/25 at 10:49 pm to Howyouluhdat
quote:I'm not Catholic but isn't this a fairly common belief among Catholics?
Honest question, are there any theistic evolutionists in here. Does anyone believe in both creationism and evolution?
Posted on 6/26/25 at 10:54 pm to northshorebamaman
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I'm not Catholic but isn't this a fairly common belief among Catholics?
I’m not sure to be honest. Was just wondering who thought both could exist. I know there are quite a few Christian Science scholars so I’ve always thought that was interesting. There’s no denying evolution. I never commented on it in this thread because it’s really impossible to disprove but I’m also a strong believer as you may well know from this thread. It’s a tightrope to walk for sure
Posted on 6/26/25 at 11:19 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:Don’t worry, when fatandstupid starts using Mr. Garrison in South Park as a talking point because he’s too stupid to comprehend the joke, we all know evolution left some behind.
Joking aside, I'm actually anticipating this as a serious response from a few of these guys.
Posted on 6/26/25 at 11:26 pm to Howyouluhdat
quote:Well, I'm agnostic and don't see any conflict with creationism and evolution provided it's not of the "Young Earth" variety.
I’m not sure to be honest. Was just wondering who thought both could exist. I know there are quite a few Christian Science scholars so I’ve always thought that was interesting. There’s no denying evolution. I never commented on it in this thread because it’s really impossible to disprove but I’m also a strong believer as you may well know from this thread. It’s a tightrope to walk for sure
Posted on 6/26/25 at 11:46 pm to drizztiger
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Don’t worry, when fatandstupid starts using Mr. Garrison in South Park as a talking point because he’s too stupid to comprehend the joke, we all know evolution left some behind.
I kinda feel like that was actually some elite level trolling and he just dropped a bomb and walked away like the Joker waiting for the fun to begin
Posted on 6/26/25 at 11:51 pm to DeshaHog
quote:That would be cool but he has a long history of posting painfully earnest shite even dumber than that.
I kinda feel like that was actually some elite level trolling and he just dropped a bomb and walked away like the Joker waiting for the fun to begin
This post was edited on 6/26/25 at 11:57 pm
Posted on 6/27/25 at 12:05 am to Howyouluhdat
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Does anyone believe in both creationism and evolution?
Every Christian believes in creation and evolution. Most dont buy that we just popped into existence out of thin air, with no building blocks present, to get us from a cold dry rock with no atmosphere to where we are today. Thats why evolution doesnt even attempt to answer the question of abiogenesis. Because it cant happen via unassisted evolution
We do accept that 2 people at creation, or 8 people after a global flood have changed over time from their beginnings. That is evolution, per its definition
But you also dont see living organisms anywhere that mankind can explore. If those remote moons and planets are still so hostile that life cannot form today, just think how hostile the Earth was at its formation. Even more so.
Nothing has survived, or thrived on these barren lands, billions of years later. Because the sun is too hot by day, and the darkness is too frigid at night for anything to survive without shelter or water or a food source, only to have the cycle repeat itself just 12 hours later. Then factor in a flood, drought, volcanic activity, a meteor shower, a pandemic and a small developing community of life dies instantly, whatever stage it has evolved to
Posted on 6/27/25 at 12:30 am to RobbBobb
quote:Are you fricking serious right now? Evolution doesn't "attempt" to explain abiogenesis because it's not within the purview of the theory. Just like music theory or the instructions to your tv remote don't attempt to tackle the subject of fly-fishing and my phone bill doesn't attempt to explain cheese production: because that's a totally separate discussion and not the subject matter at hand, numbnuts. The word "evolution" and not "origin" was used as an attempt to clue you into the subject.
Every Christian believes in creation and evolution. Most dont buy that we just popped into existence out of thin air, with no building blocks present, to get us from a cold dry rock with no atmosphere to where we are today. Thats why evolution doesnt even attempt to answer the question of abiogenesis.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 12:40 am to northshorebamaman
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Evolution doesn't "attempt" to explain abiogenesis
Yeah, I pretty much covered that in my post
My point was the hostile origins of the Earth would not have allowed evolution to have evolved long enough to produce higher life forms. Thats why you cant find a single speck of anything in our solar system
You want a theory that you can run with, after the so-called building blocks miraculously appeared. Well, they didnt appear. Anywhere. As seen on our moon, or any planet in our system
Lifeless planetary bodies are the facts. Evolution is the theory
Posted on 6/27/25 at 12:48 am to RobbBobb
quote:You're doing it again. The theory of evolution has frick-all to do with all that shite you just wrote. It explains the diversity of life not the origin. It's honestly mind-blowing and deeply depressing that so many people lack the cognitive capacity to understand this very simple distinction. Evolution gives no shits if it was set into motion by your favorite Sky Daddy or slime in a pool.
My point was the hostile origins of the Earth would not have allowed evolution to have evolved long enough to produce higher life forms. Thats why you cant find a single speck of anything in our solar system
You want a theory that you can run with, after the so-called building blocks miraculously appeared. Well, they didnt appear. Anywhere. As seen on our moon, or any planet in our system
This post was edited on 6/27/25 at 1:18 am
Posted on 6/27/25 at 6:00 am to RobbBobb
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My point was the hostile origins of the Earth would not have allowed evolution to have evolved long enough to produce higher life forms. Thats why you cant find a single speck of anything in our solar system
imagine being this stupid and saying with certainty what you know to have happened over those billions of years based on your tiny monkey brain logic Not to mention our universe could be inside of a black hole inside a larger universe, meaning we wouldn’t see anything outside of it. You don’t know what’s out there
Posted on 6/27/25 at 6:06 am to northshorebamaman
We know spontaneously mutations happen but do not know why. That is an example.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 6:15 am to RobbBobb
quote:
You want a theory that you can run with, after the so-called building blocks miraculously appeared. Well, they didnt appear. Anywhere. As seen on our moon, or any planet in our system
Lifeless planetary bodies are the facts. Evolution is the theory
Whoa so you've been to and seen every planet? How long did it take and how did you get there?
Posted on 6/27/25 at 6:15 am to RobbBobb
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Every Christian believes in creation and evolution
I do but I know quite a few that don’t and Genesis 1 is taken quite literally. Creating the world in 6 days is what they can’t get past. Gods time and our time are not compatible. I think it even says in the Bible 1 day to the lord is like 10,000 to us or something. Time is literally speed x distance but I think some Christians get caught up in that. Adam and Eve could be symbolic or theological figures, not literal first humans. I think he allowed the evolutionary process to work to create humanity and it took awhile for humans to fully develop to be able to understand the moral and spiritual responsibilities. Adam and Eve could also mark the beginning of humanity’s relationship with God, not necessarily the beginning of biological human beings.
This post was edited on 6/27/25 at 6:16 am
Posted on 6/27/25 at 6:21 am to RobbBobb
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We do accept that 2 people at creation, or 8 people after a global flood have changed over time from their beginnings. That is evolution, per its definition
What?
Posted on 6/27/25 at 7:05 am to northshorebamaman
quote:quote:I'm not Catholic but isn't this a fairly common belief among Catholics?
Honest question, are there any theistic evolutionists in here. Does anyone believe in both creationism and evolution?
Catholics typically don’t study the Bible. They get their out of context OT paragraph, NT epistle paragraph, and NT gospel paragraph read to them in church, and it’s the same ones year after year. They don’t get into the verses explaining how the earth is 6000 years old and how it is a flat disk with an upside down glass bowl on top of it with the sun moon and stars under the bowl.
Some of them believe Genesis 1/2 is a metaphor, and they simply are unaware of the rest of the biblical books where this is a fundamental theme that the authors took literally.
Evolution is taught in science class in Catholic schools.
If anyone truly believes the Bible is the inspired word of God, they have to reject evolution and spherical earth and a bunch of basic science concepts that are taught in elementary school.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 7:41 am to northshorebamaman
Poor little man. Keep trying
Posted on 6/27/25 at 7:45 am to RobbBobb
Wrong. You do realize the Bible does not support evolution, right?
Posted on 6/27/25 at 8:02 am to RobbBobb
quote:
My point was the hostile origins of the Earth would not have allowed evolution to have evolved long enough to produce higher life forms.
Trying to decipher:
God tosses living organisms onto Earth.
Evolution tries to do it's thing, but God sends water and lightning to kill all these v1s first.
God whips up a better batch of living organisms and tosses them onto Earth.
Rinse and repeat.
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