re: Do you know of anyone that thinks Obamacare works?

This guy gets it. You have to understand that "allowing plans to sell across state lines" is another way of saying "the federal government prohibiting states from regulating their own health insurance regimes." How's that for small government?

Further, last I checked none of your insurance cards say "Obamacare" on it. You're blaming the government for a service it does not even provide.

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why do people not pay a flat tax?

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id be okay with paying a flat tax

The majority has no access to affordable health insurance.

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If you and everyone else who feels the same way will vote for a flat tax, id gladly vote against obama care.

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I don't care what you vote for.

I'm just stating my opinion that I don't give a shite whether or not your mother can afford health insurance. If she couldn't afford health insurance because of being self employed then she should have taken a job with a company that has health insurance.

Spent two decades in healthcare, most of it in management/administration. Glad to be out but keep up with many old industry peers.

Obamacare has flaws, that's for sure. Anyone who confuses what we have with socialized medicine as it exists in most developed countries is being intellectually dishonest.

In the end, we'll see socialized medicine here in the States. It will happen in most of our lifetimes. And while it's easy to say repeal, the fact is big Pharma and health insurers made more money in the Obamacare era. Reality is most hospitals would rather see Obamacare stay as opposed to dealing with a new period of uncertainty with new rules and reimbursement. Not to say this is wrong or right, they simply finally got used to the ACA and don't want to start over again. It's risk aversion and nothing more.

That said, I'm convinced that as long as a for-profit company (health insurance) is committed to returning dividends to shareholders the system will never be as efficient as it could be. Wages will be marginalized for healthcare workers including Physicians as hospitals race to the bottom in terms of expenses as socialized medicine becomes the norm. Thus, the reason I got out.

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Using your logic, why do people not pay a flat tax? We are a society of unequals, does that mean we kill off the poor?

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EXCELLENT IDEA

Am I the only person who thinks it's stupid to promise healthcare to everyone...then make everyone buy health insurance?

Heath Care =/= Health Insurance.

Holy shite, thought I accidentally clicked the poli-board

You truly are a dimwit. Not everyone puts themselves into the situations you keep referring to. Life isn't black/white like your world. It's predominantly gray.