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Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:05 am to terd ferguson
Yes but dont businesses have to file with the state to get an official "No gun zone" licence/permit/whatever. Strictly a no gun sign doesnt prohibit concealed carry?
TBH im not up to date on the newer rules.
TBH im not up to date on the newer rules.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:07 am to SoFla Tideroller
Do you walk around with a helmet? It's the proper tool to lessen the chances of brain injury due to a fall. You can never be too careful these days with this country's crumbling infrastructure. Between uneven curbs, chipped pavement, and crazies shooting up theaters, I just can't justify allowing my family out of the house.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:08 am to SoFla Tideroller
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A firearm is the proper tool to lessen the chances of being the victim of violent crime.
I don't think its the proper tool at all
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:09 am to LesMiles BFF
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Crashing a car has a high probability of happening. The chances of being caught in a theater shooting is even smaller than crashing in a plane.
That's an apples and oranges comparison.
I haven't been to the movies in 2 years. I drive a car everyday. I put myself in one situation far more than the other.
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A better comparison is carrying a gun because you may be attacked in public to wearing a parachute on every flight you take because you may crash.
Like I said, that was no comment on your personal preference to carry/not carry and I respect the fact that you choose not to. I just think that it's better to have it and not use it rather than not have it and need it. Much like your gun at your house.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:09 am to upgrayedd
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Risking hitting innocents while trying to neutralize a shooter can be an acceptable risk.
Let's not gloss over this statement.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:10 am to CarRamrod
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Yes but dont businesses have to file with the state to get an official "No gun zone" licence/permit/whatever. Strictly a no gun sign doesnt prohibit concealed carry?
I don't think so. I think they can just choose to prohibit carry. I know I've talked to people that open carry and been told that they had been asked to go put their firearm in their vehicle and they could return to the store. I'm guessing at that point at a minimum they could get you for trespassing after being asked to leave.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:11 am to LesMiles BFF
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Let's not gloss over this statement.
I have no intention of doing so. To me, that's a very serious situation to consider.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:11 am to Salmon
Well, I think it can be. If your home is invaded, you're being carjacked, robbed, etc.
I carry, but I obviously can't carry everywhere. I just gauge the situation and use common sense.
If I have to go to West Jackson, I'll probably carry. If I have to go to Madison, I won't need to.
I know, I know. Racist.
I carry, but I obviously can't carry everywhere. I just gauge the situation and use common sense.
If I have to go to West Jackson, I'll probably carry. If I have to go to Madison, I won't need to.
I know, I know. Racist.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:12 am to SabiDojo
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Then you have to ask yourself what makes you different from the shooter.
That's a bit of a dishonest question.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:12 am to SabiDojo
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Well, I think it can be. If your home is invaded, you're being carjacked, robbed, etc.
Yes. It can be a tool. I just don't think its the proper tool.
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I just gauge the situation and use common sense.
This is the proper tool.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:13 am to FishinTygah84
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i passed the class and the shooting portion but never actually applied to get it. I kept thinking of how much responsibility came with it. Plus there are so many situations the instructor talk about where there is such a fine line between doing the right thing and going to jail yourself. It's weird. The class actually talked me out of it. That was 3-4 years ago. I have actually been thinking about retaking it and getting the license now just because of all of the things that have happened lately.
This for me, as well. There have been a few situations where I've been in some uncomfortable situations in public and wished I had it, but I'm not sure that I'm ready to concede to the mindset of needing to wear a firearm every day because of ever-present danger.
That said, a gun in the glovebox while driving around New Orleans is a no-brainer.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:13 am to upgrayedd
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I have no intention of doing so. To me, that's a very serious situation to consider
Serious question: would military men and police officers say the same thing if their comrades or other civilians were in the line of fire? I don't know for sure, but I would highly doubt they would agree with you. And they are trained professionals
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:14 am to upgrayedd
I'm sure you're a nice guy and take your CC rights very seriously, but please if we are ever eating together like Jules and Vincent at the end of Pulp Fiction, promise me you will hand over the "bad mother fricker" and not pull your piece. 
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:14 am to Salmon
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Well, I think it can be. If your home is invaded, you're being carjacked, robbed, etc.
Yes. It can be a tool. I just don't think its the proper tool.
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I just gauge the situation and use common sense.
This is the proper tool.
I think an issue that you have with this whole debate is that you are looking for a definitive answer. If so, you might as well stop, because there isn't one.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:15 am to upgrayedd
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What scares me is that from the posts I've read here I figure the people that CC are more paranoid than the average person.
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I haven't read every single post, but being paranoid shouldn't and does factor into it for me. Its matter of being able to defend myself if ever the situation should arise. I have deployed into a combat zone and have extensive training with firearms. I'm comfortable them but firearms aren't for everyone.
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What scares me is that from the posts I've read here I figure the people that CC are more paranoid than the average person.
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I haven't read every single post, but being paranoid shouldn't and does factor into it for me. Its matter of being able to defend myself if ever the situation should arise. I have deployed into a combat zone and have extensive training with firearms. I'm comfortable them but firearms aren't for everyone.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:18 am to Salmon
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Well, I think it can be. If your home is invaded, you're being carjacked, robbed, etc.
Yes. It can be a tool. I just don't think its the proper tool.
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I just gauge the situation and use common sense.
This is the proper tool.
If someone has made up their mind to kill you or those around you, no amount of common sense will deter them. If you can tell me how it would, I'd love to hear it.
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 10:19 am
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:19 am to LesMiles BFF
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I'm sure you're a nice guy and take your CC rights very seriously, but please if we are ever eating together like Jules and Vincent at the end of Pulp Fiction, promise me you will hand over the "bad mother fricker" and not pull your piece.
It's not that I take might right to carry seriously, it's the using it part that I take seriously. The vast majority of the time it's more appropriate to use your brain rather than your gun. The last thing I want to do is come off as some wannabe caped crusader defending the streets.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:20 am to Darth_Vader
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If someone has made up their mind to kill you or those around you, no amount of common sense will deter them
neither will you having a gun
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:21 am to Salmon
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neither will you having a gun
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