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re: Do You Believe In Demons?

Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:09 am to
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
7772 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:09 am to
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Where are you getting your information from and where is your evidence that god does not exist??

This is just mind-blowing type of stupid right here. Seriously, asking someone to prove the non-existence of something?
Posted by CottonWasKing
4,8,15,16,23,42
Member since Jun 2011
29479 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:09 am to
quote:

ncapable of talking to more than one person at a time?



Well between the voices in his head and GeauxtigerTM his plate is kind of full. Cut him some slack will ya
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25424 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:11 am to
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or that I'm not being clear enough?


You are plenty clear. It seems to me that he is searching for a gotcha moment without actually responding to the idea of your responses.
Posted by GetBackToWork
Member since Dec 2007
6525 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:12 am to
Here are my weird encounters. I don't care what anyone says, and I don't necessarily know what to think myself. First off, no drugs are involved. If you met me you wouldn't think I'd tell stories like this.

S/O and I were laying in bed one night asleep. For some reason at different times we both woke up, looked at the other, and saw our face contorted into something completely demonic staring back. The next day we both woke up freaked out. Not wanting to sound like a nut, we calmly discussed what each of us experienced. It was odd how it happened to us both on the same night, the same way.

That was the first of several odd occurrences around that house. Later, we noticed things would go missing then reappear somewhere out in the open. There was always a sensation of something being outside the house looking in. I frequently had dreams of wicked looking creatures I'd never seen or imagined surrounding the house. There was never anything like blood on the walls, but it was a subtle feeling of evil that never really went away.

When we moved, I've never since had a similar feeling or experience. We stayed in touch with the girl who bought our house. Without prompting, one day she asked if anything weird ever happened. She told us several times she would hear a young girl calling out her name.

Call me crazy, naive, an ignorant southerner, I don't care. Three non superstitious types had weird experiences of a sort that felt evil in nature. Were they demons - I don't know. It disturbed me enough, though, that I will never take the concept of evil lightly, and will do whatever I can to never experience anything like that again.
Posted by Manzielathon
Death Valley
Member since Sep 2013
8951 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:13 am to
The year 2014...

Believing in God...

Believing so much you argue about his theoretical existence on internet message boards....

Three strikes you're out buddy.
Posted by beejon
University Of Louisiana Warhawks
Member since Nov 2008
7959 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:15 am to
You can bet that when one begins talking about demons, the demons get stirred up.
Posted by beejon
University Of Louisiana Warhawks
Member since Nov 2008
7959 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:16 am to
Thanks for sharing that. The spiritual realm is real.
Posted by CottonWasKing
4,8,15,16,23,42
Member since Jun 2011
29479 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:17 am to
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S/O and I were laying in bed one night asleep. For some reason at different times we both woke up, looked at the other, and saw our face contorted into something completely demonic staring back. The next day we both woke up freaked out. Not wanting to sound like a nut, we calmly discussed what each of us experienced. It was odd how it happened to us both on the same night, the same way.



If this happened to me I be goddamned if I would just calmly go back to sleep. frick that. The bitch is getting the frick up out of my house


Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:18 am to
OK...I said early on I was going to be too busy today to do this...and I'm already running behind...so this will have to be it until later on today. But I want to TRY and explain the notion of burden of proof when it comes to this topic. I know this'll fall on deaf ears, but I want it on record at least...maybe some will find it useful.

Let's play a though experiment. We all currently live on Earth. We know the ground is beneath our feet. As far as we can tell, we have a pretty go idea what's down there...crust, mantle, etc. That's the default position of everyone here. We all start off without any notions of anything being there that we have not seen, or heard or experienced, etc. Why would we, right?

But what if someone told you there were giants living down there? What if when you honestly asked them why they thought they, they gave you vague ambiguous answers? What if when you asked for proof, they got angry and told you they did not need to do that? What if they told you that the reason you could not see them or measure them is because you did not believe in them? what if they told you that, by definition, they were unmeasurable and there was no way for you to examine their claim?

Would you then allow a shift in argument that was stated as, "Prove your lack of belief in my giants?"

This can also explain this very basic concept well if you'd prefer to watch 10 minute video.

LINK
Posted by LasVegasTiger
Idaho
Member since Apr 2008
8520 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:28 am to
quote:

Thanks for sharing that. The spiritual realm is real.


When is someone going to catch one of these demon beast on video?
Posted by beejon
University Of Louisiana Warhawks
Member since Nov 2008
7959 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:28 am to
What if someone had actually met them but you haven't? Simply because you hadn't met them wouldn't mean they didn't exist.

And we're talking about spiritual beings, which is on a different level altogether.
Posted by BamaChemE
Midland, TX
Member since Feb 2012
7491 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:29 am to
quote:

Prove your lack of belief in my giants





QED
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:31 am to
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There's no need to, any more so than there is a need to validate my disbelief in faeries or unicorns. The issue is the existence of deities. The default position, I as see it, is not assuming there is anything. Not necessarily believing there is NO deity, just that there's no reason to assume there is. That's the starting point. Now...here's where things get tricky, and where you will obviously not agree. When OTHERS declare a deity exists (or anything for that matter) they take on the burden of proving their claim. Seems easy enough to grasp. the problem comes in because those that tend to believe in supernatural things, can't provide anything remotely like the kind of evidence any reasonable person would expect to prove the existence of a thing. They're forced to say things like, "My faith is all I need," or, "My God defies being proven with evidence...He's outside of that!" While that may see like evidence enough for someone who ALREADY believes a thing, it's not remotely in the ballpark for someone waiting on actual evidence. In short...I'm waiting to be shown evidence your claim is true. Until then, I'll assume thee is likely nothing until I can be shown there likely is something. I don't need to prove my waiting on your evidence...



So geauxtigerTM, what I got out of all of that is you have zero evidence to support your atheism. And you have zero evidence that god does not exist.


Is this correct? Do you have zero evidence for your beliefs?
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:32 am to
quote:

So geauxtigerTM, what I got out of all of that is you have zero evidence to support your atheism. And you have zero evidence that god does not exist.


Is this correct? Do you have zero evidence for your beliefs?


Where is all this evidence that God exists?
Posted by DrSteveBrule
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
12392 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:33 am to
One night, I was home alone.

I heard a weird noise in the bathroom, my bath towel was on the floor.

Long story short, demons DO exist.
Posted by LSUTygerFan
Homerun Village
Member since Jun 2008
33232 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:34 am to
quote:

Do You Believe In Demons?



that guy who gets fricked up on nutmeg probably does.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25424 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:34 am to
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So geauxtigerTM, what I got out of all of that is you have zero evidence to support your atheism. And you have zero evidence that god does not exist. Is this correct? Do you have zero evidence for your beliefs?


"Gotcha!"

Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:35 am to
quote:

One night, I was home alone.

I heard a weird noise in the bathroom, my bath towel was on the floor.

Long story short, demons DO exist.



I have a bedroom door in my house that will close itself sometimes. I originally thought my old hose is New Orleans might have some foundation issues. Upon further review....................... demons. Go figure.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:35 am to
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Where is all this evidence that God exists?


Again, my religion is not the topic here. Say on the subject.


Where is your evidence that god does not exist?


Ready to admit you have zero evidence or proof to support your athetist beliefs?
Posted by DrSteveBrule
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
12392 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:36 am to
Why do atheists need to disprove this shite that religious make up?
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