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re: Do these protesters not realize things will get worse if they defund/abolish police

Posted on 6/7/20 at 1:34 pm to
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98945 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 1:34 pm to
I’m fine with it....wouldn’t affect my side of town
Posted by ezride25
Constitutional Republic
Member since Nov 2008
26562 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 1:38 pm to
#policearecanceled

Posted by joeleblanc
Member since Jan 2012
4114 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 1:57 pm to
They aren’t the brightest of folks
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299628 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:03 pm to
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Why should the community support a heavily armed organized group which is attacking them?


This is so retarded.

Funny, when there's no police presence this same community screams racism. You can't please some people.
This post was edited on 6/7/20 at 2:58 pm
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53534 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:05 pm to
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Thisis so retarded.

Funny, when there's no police presence this same community screams racism. You can't please some people.

There would certainly be heavily armed groups attacking citizens with no police
Posted by Clark14
Earth
Member since Dec 2014
27162 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:06 pm to
Our society needs rules,and it's a proven fact that humans can't police themselves effectively.

Doing away with law enforcement would lead to a blood bath.The idea of this is just stupid.
Posted by Pussykat
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
3889 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:08 pm to
Sorry for good people living in the hood, their live will be hell with no one to call for help.
Posted by Dat Boi Bruce
15th Judicial District
Member since Mar 2020
644 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:53 pm to
Don't be too quick to discount it, a 24/7 Purge might be fun
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74858 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:54 pm to
for who exactly?

Posted by Dat Boi Bruce
15th Judicial District
Member since Mar 2020
644 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:57 pm to
Them
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74858 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 3:02 pm to
amount of gun owners: suburbs + rural areas >>>>>>>>> inner city gun owners. that’s not smoke the inner city would want. am I saying that right?
This post was edited on 6/7/20 at 3:13 pm
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 3:16 pm to
They are all mentally ill. Do u think they realize
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

I've heard this said quite often, but never any specifics. What would you like to see happen?


Just off the top of my head:

End traffic stops and roadblocks.

Legalize recreational drugs.

Take away the personnel carriers, helicopters, electrical torture devices, war dogs, and semi-automatic weapons.

Select cops randomly from the law-abiding citizenry, like jurors.

Constrain the ability of local police and politicians to declare curfews and states of emergency, confiscate guns, etc.

End civil asset forfeiture.

End undercover operations. Make cops wear uniforms and drive identifiable vehicles.

Roll back law enforcement staffing to pre-Clinton levels.

Remove legal protections against being sued on the job that are exclusive to law enforcement.

End private prisons.

End active probation and parole.

Repeal "three strike" laws.

Legalize prostitution.

Get cops out of schools.
This post was edited on 6/7/20 at 3:27 pm
Posted by mametoo
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2008
3293 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 5:37 pm to
quote:

Legalize recreational drugs.


Thanks. Pretty sure law enforcement has nothing to do with that.
Posted by zacata88
Member since Mar 2014
1682 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 5:40 pm to
For a split second I felt the same way but then I realized that we don’t need people with guns and a basically militaristic training to respond to 95% of people that police respond to...we could instead use that money to fund people who have training in peacefully mediating crises.
Posted by MSUDawg98
Bear the F Down
Member since Jan 2018
13892 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 6:02 pm to
End traffic stops and roadblocks. Roadblocks YES, Traffic Stops NO

Legalize recreational drugs.
Define Recreational...Meth & hard drug addicts = more thieves

Take away the personnel carriers, helicopters, electrical torture devices, war dogs, and semi-automatic weapons. NO. If anything have at least one member of the SWAT team armed with a fully auto gun on calls requiring SWAT. Tasers are the only thing cops can carry on them that have minimal lasting effects. (Or do you prefer they get shot?)

Select cops randomly from the law-abiding citizenry, like jurors. Makes sense but you'd have to figure out who to put in the drawing.

Constrain the ability of local police and politicians to declare curfews and states of emergency, confiscate guns, etc. Establish clear standards for curfews/SOE and remove gun confiscation completely in all 50 states. The last 2 weeks has finally shown WHY private gun ownership is so important...the police can not be relied upon 24/7/365

End civil asset forfeiture. Enable fines and perhaps a percentage of assets but the current laws are way too subjective.

End undercover operations. Make cops wear uniforms and drive identifiable vehicles.HORRIBLE Idea. The whole point of undercover officers is for intelligence on criminal activity.

Roll back law enforcement staffing to pre-Clinton levels. I believe much of this was in the aftermath of Rodney King/OKC/9-11. If it could be done safely I'm all for it.

Remove legal protections against being sued on the job that are exclusive to law enforcement. NO

End private prisons. Them ever starting was a horrible idea. It incentivized more incarceration/longer sentences because the cost of incarceration for the state was lowered.

End active probation and parole. Scale back what triggers revocation.

Repeal "three strike" laws. Heighten the threshold for what's counted as a "strike"

Legalize prostitution. Legalize call girls but continue to ban brothels.

Get cops out of schools. Ensure an armed school resource officer is in every school of up to 500 students and an additional one for every 500 after that.
This post was edited on 6/7/20 at 6:05 pm
Posted by Kodar
Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
4630 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 6:32 pm to
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USMEagles
As others have already addressed many of your points, I won't bother with the rest, but:
quote:

Get cops out of schools.

Ah yes, lets go ahead and make one of the already easiest targets for a spree killer in the country an even easier target. I see no way this possibly ends badly!
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