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re: Do Puerto Ricans Consider Themselves Americans?

Posted on 4/15/19 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by ExtraGravy
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 3:17 pm to
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Posted by tgrbaitn08
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 3:18 pm to
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She's referring to the hurricane that they can't recover from because they pissed away most of the relief money via political corruption. It's basically the reason they're essentially a third world country and will remain so forever.



my parents just got back from PR...granted they stayed on a cruise ship, but my dad said while there was definitely evidence of damage, but to him it looked like things were getting better
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 3:18 pm to
I knew they were a US territory but I did not know that made you a citizen. I thought it meant that the US will defend you at war and would give you aid when necessary.

Also I am not claiming to have any real knowledge on this subject, I clearly asked in the OP whether or not I was right. (it appears I was wrong).

I just don't get how they are considered citizens when they are denied basic rights guaranteed to US citizens in the constitution.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 3:18 pm to
No they’re water Mexicans
Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 3:19 pm to
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ExtraGravy



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brown people


Posted by TigerStripes06
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 3:19 pm to
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Clarify this. That is an interesting concept.


There are people all over the world that have never stepped foot in this country that have an American parent that are citizens that wouldn’t consider themselves Americans.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 3:20 pm to
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Are they really citizens? I mean they don't have the right to vote on the President
Puerto Rico isn't represented in the electoral college but Puerto Rican people have the right to vote. They can just move to another state.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 3:20 pm to
Here are the main points on "PR American Citizens"

- they dont pay personal income tax
- they have their own world cup team
- they have their own Olympic team

They aren't Americans in my opinion
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 3:22 pm
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 3:21 pm to
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There are people all over the world that have never stepped foot in this country that have an American parent that are citizens that wouldn’t consider themselves Americans.


That makes sense. Like that pole volter kid from Laffy that competes internationally as for Sweden.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 3:22 pm to
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my parents just got back from PR...granted they stayed on a cruise ship, but my dad said while there was definitely evidence of damage, but to him it looked like things were getting better



Their corruption has dragged this out far longer than necessary. It's like when the mayor of San Juan was going on her anti-Trump rant about how they weren't receiving supplies while standing in from of pallets of food and water.


Here's half a runway covered in bottled water that the PR government never distributed.



Posted by ExtraGravy
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 3:22 pm to
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Posted by ScaryClown
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 3:23 pm to
Wasn't Trump shooting paper towel rolls out the back of a truck at them like it was basketball?... borderline mocking them. I know theres a gif out there.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 3:23 pm to
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Puerto Rico isn't represented in the electoral college but Puerto Rican people have the right to vote. They can just move to another state.

There are more Puerto Ricans in Nueva Jork than in PR
Posted by tgrbaitn08
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 3:23 pm to
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Here's half a runway covered in bottled water that the PR government never distributed.



damn...why wouldnt they distribute it?
Posted by CelticDog
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 3:25 pm to
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caught me off guard to see a Puerto Rican refer to herself and her country as "American Citizens".


News flash

They are.

New York City is full of them. They can come and go as they please.
Recently droves of them moved to central Florida.
New Member of Congress, from NYC,
Ocasio is one.

quote:

The Puerto Rican Campaign was an American military sea and land operation on the island of Puerto Rico during the Spanish–American War. The offensive began on May 12, 1898, when the United States Navy attacked the capital, San Juan. Though the damage inflicted on the city was minimal, the Americans were able to establish a blockadein the city's harbor, San Juan Bay. On June 22, the cruiser Isabel II and the destroyer Terrordelivered a Spanish counterattack, but were unable to break the blockade and Terror was damaged.


We got it in 1898 in peace treaty.
Also got Phillipines at same treaty.
After ww2 we gave Phillipines independence.
We kept Puerto Rico.

This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 3:28 pm
Posted by JawjaTigah
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 3:25 pm to
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they're essentially a third world country and will remain so forever.
Like Louisiana.
Posted by TigerStripes06
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 3:25 pm to
Not like him. At all he was born here and grew up here. He’s an American.

I mean say a man or woman leaves the country and moves to France, the uk, Germany...wherever...and never comes back. Then they have a family with someone from one of those countries and they stay there. The kid would be an American citizen because one parent is American, but they wouldn’t consider themselves an American.
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 3:39 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 3:26 pm to
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damn...why wouldnt they distribute it?



They say FEMA had an oversupply and they needed somewhere to store it. God forbid they hand it out to their citizens
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 3:26 pm to
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I just don't get how they are considered citizens when they are denied basic rights guaranteed to US citizens in the constitution.
They have the same rights as you do on an individual level but some of those are restricted in PR. If you were to move to PR your rights would be restricted in the same manner. And on the flipside, if a Puerto Rican moves to a state, say LA, he has the same rights as any other US citizen in LA.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 3:28 pm to
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Not like him. At all he was born here and grew up here. He’s an American.


He would be what you are talking about from the Swedish POV though right?

He's never lived in Sweden but he competes for them cuz his mom was born there.
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