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re: Do parents focus too much on children's sports?
Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:12 am to crazy4lsu
Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:12 am to crazy4lsu
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Even 16 weekends out of the year is too much for me.
so just because 16 weeks out of 52 is too much for you, then every other parent and kids across the globe shouldnt do it?
Is fishing or hunting 16 weekends out the year too much for you?
Is going to 16 college or NFL football games a year too much for you?
What should those parents that enjoy spending time with their kids taking them to play sports they choose to play...what should they do instead since it's "too much for you"
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:14 am to Pecker
Yes.
My love of golf is due in part because my father never pressured me into playing. It's something I discovered I loved at an early age and play because I enjoy it. I had to play baseball, and although I love the game, I never really had a passion for it.
I'm trying to keep that in perspective with my daughter.
My love of golf is due in part because my father never pressured me into playing. It's something I discovered I loved at an early age and play because I enjoy it. I had to play baseball, and although I love the game, I never really had a passion for it.
I'm trying to keep that in perspective with my daughter.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:29 am to Collegedropout
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I hope you're kidding.
A whole generation is ruined cause of this
YOLO man, the kids will learn how to be more self-sufficient. On top of that, they won't grow up soft.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:33 am to Pecker
Go to a travel ball tournament and you will answer this question
Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:34 am to nguyt518
My youngest son plays on a travel team, his team plays year round. We don't play baseball during football season. ( fall ball). We don't play during basketball season. The coaches understand, that he will play all the sports he wants to and we aren't playing a fall baseball game on Saturday and driving an hour to play football. One sport at a time.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:36 am to rd280z
As a parent of kids in travel sports I believe there are great positive benefits and also great pitfalls. It is like any other activity in which you can excel; art, chess, writing, academic games, music. It is a way for kids to explore their limits and seek to push past them.
The main thing I want my kids to get out of competitive sports is not ability, it is drive. Drive for them to find and then push past their limits. Drive for them to try and excel in everything they do. To strive to be great. Ambition and work ethic have been lacking in American culture for long enough and that has hurt us.
Ambition and work ethic aren't/can't be taught at school, and, once they are out on their own, those two things will carry my kids farther than anything else I could possibly give them. BUT...it must come from them, from their own internal competitive nature that I have fostered and not forced on them.
If, through the lens of sports, you are forcing extra coaching, practice, reps, camps, or travel on your kids in the name of ability and success then you are failing them. You can't make them hate competition and have them become successful adults.
I don't expect my kids to play in the pros or college. I don't want or expect any scholarships. I want my kids to want more for themselves and be willing to do the work to accomplish their goals. To me that is something that I can't put a value on.
The main thing I want my kids to get out of competitive sports is not ability, it is drive. Drive for them to find and then push past their limits. Drive for them to try and excel in everything they do. To strive to be great. Ambition and work ethic have been lacking in American culture for long enough and that has hurt us.
Ambition and work ethic aren't/can't be taught at school, and, once they are out on their own, those two things will carry my kids farther than anything else I could possibly give them. BUT...it must come from them, from their own internal competitive nature that I have fostered and not forced on them.
If, through the lens of sports, you are forcing extra coaching, practice, reps, camps, or travel on your kids in the name of ability and success then you are failing them. You can't make them hate competition and have them become successful adults.
I don't expect my kids to play in the pros or college. I don't want or expect any scholarships. I want my kids to want more for themselves and be willing to do the work to accomplish their goals. To me that is something that I can't put a value on.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:40 am to Pecker
Things like travel baseball and soccer have become rediculos. I have friends that travel anywhere from Texas to Florida staying hotels every weekend in the summer. The cost has to be insane.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:47 am to Pecker
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Do you get the feeling that these are mostly redneck parents? I always noticed that redneck or ghetto parents were the worst because they had these delusions of grandeur that their child was going to be a pro someday and buy them shite. Then you get families that are better off financially who put more of an emphasis on education and being a well-rounded person (sports, playing piano, learning new languages, playing chess, reading, etc).
I coached inner-city youth football for 10 years. I'm talking, games in local parks where some coaches had ankle bracelets on at the mid-field coin toss.
For the last 6 I was at the largest Parochial school in Louisville -St. Gabriel. Very wealthy parish. By and large, most of my boys were seemingly still on their mother's nipple. I coach 5th and 6th grade. They don't smell themselves quite as much as the 7th and 8th graders.
These Parochial school parents are worse than any groups I encountered in the city league. Swear to goodness. I check grades of my kids with the school. If kids act out in school, or aren't maintaining a C average in a class, then they don't play. Parents come after me...and I literally mean have come after me physically because their precious will be sitting due to grade or behavior issues.
I won't lie. I have been very successful coaching. I've been blessed with good boys more times than not. I honestly tell them that I'm more proud of them that they are good people than I am at their success on the field. Coaching is more than X's and O's - I raised excellent boys of my own, and take the responsibility on the field to mentor etc seriously. When I was in the city league, I was most of those boys male role model.
So no, they aren't mostly the parents you may stereotype as being the issue. There are certainly bad one's everywhere. They are mostly, in my experience, the Porsche driving folks that have the best access to everything that gave me the most trouble. IMHO, a great deal of that stems from not having an exposure to the word "no", or having been exposed to people willing to speak honestly to them about their kids.
Again, I could go on for days, but there's a snippet of my feelings...
This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 10:51 am
Posted on 6/6/17 at 1:55 pm to CoachDon
I never had kids. But...kids need something to do that gives them a challenge ; both mentally and physically. Kids need to have fun with other kids. Being on a team. Just feeling included with others who are your same age. Exercise is needed more than ever. Dealing with goals and respecting your coaches. Finding something you may have a natural gift for . Something you enjoy that gets you outside in the sunshine. Breathing fresh air and laughing or giggling. Doing cartwheels or running. Nature is to be experienced. Sports can include all of these.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 2:14 pm to Pecker
The Sports Parent's Questionnaire should include this question:
"I could've been a college or professional athlete if it wasn't for ______________."
If the parent doesn't leave it blank, they shouldn't be around kids' sports.
"I could've been a college or professional athlete if it wasn't for ______________."
If the parent doesn't leave it blank, they shouldn't be around kids' sports.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 2:16 pm to Pecker
My coworker certainly does. Can't go 2 weeks without him coming to work with some video of his 9 year old's baseball heroics.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 2:24 pm to lsucoonass
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If she wants to do a team sport, I won't let her quit during the season because she made a commitment to her team members. Once the season ends she doesn't have to do the sport ever again.
Just what the team wants, to be stuck with a un-motivated player for the whole season. If she is not interested in the sport help her and the team, let her quit and get involved in something she is interested in.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 2:25 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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Can't go 2 weeks without him coming to work with some video of his 9 year old's baseball heroics.
oh man the horror.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 2:37 pm to Pecker
#1 - the idle mind is the devil's playhouse. got to keep kids busy. I dont care if it is fishing, football, tennis, karate, etc. just keep busy.
#2 - it is a responsibility of parents to get kids involved in everything until one or two activities become the interest of the KIDS.
#3 - if the kid is truly interested, he will want to go to practice. if he decides to quit, and you dont let him, he then learns about making decisions and the consequences of those decisions.
#4 - there is nothing wrong with paying for the best of the best instruction for the kids as long as you can afford it and it is the kid that is truly interested.
#5 - parents simply have to resist the "car ride talk". coaches coach. parents need to be parents. sometimes that means allowing kids to fail, and NOT picking them up. have them talk to the coach about how to improve, or avoid the failure next time.
#6 - parents need to not believe that it is a direct reflection of them if the kid fails.
#7 - and i have coached a year round sport for well over 20 years, and still do to this day.
#2 - it is a responsibility of parents to get kids involved in everything until one or two activities become the interest of the KIDS.
#3 - if the kid is truly interested, he will want to go to practice. if he decides to quit, and you dont let him, he then learns about making decisions and the consequences of those decisions.
#4 - there is nothing wrong with paying for the best of the best instruction for the kids as long as you can afford it and it is the kid that is truly interested.
#5 - parents simply have to resist the "car ride talk". coaches coach. parents need to be parents. sometimes that means allowing kids to fail, and NOT picking them up. have them talk to the coach about how to improve, or avoid the failure next time.
#6 - parents need to not believe that it is a direct reflection of them if the kid fails.
#7 - and i have coached a year round sport for well over 20 years, and still do to this day.
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