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Do Not Resuscitate - How does this work?

Posted on 6/1/19 at 7:50 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
76084 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 7:50 pm
I'll spare you the details. And trust me you don't want pics.

How does this work for first aid type things, like if a person falls down and breaks a bone, or has trouble eating, etc? Random bladder infection, etc.

I'm not in a position to ask the provider, I'm not HIPAA'd in yet. Actualy, I am HIPAA'd in, but I would have to drive 4 hours and produce a bunch of paperwork.

What says the OT?
Posted by TechDawg2007
Bawville
Member since Nov 2007
32632 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 7:51 pm to
Do not resuscitate
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 7:52 pm to
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A do-not-resuscitate order, or DNR order, is a medical order written by a doctor. It instructs health care providers not to do cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR) if a patient's breathing stops or if the patient's heart stops beating.


If you start dying, they don't attempt to keep you living.

If you're just injured, you still get medical treatment. Granted, if there is a persistent serious medical condition, that it gets more complicated but that's not what you asked.
This post was edited on 6/1/19 at 7:54 pm
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 7:54 pm to
Hippocratic oaf
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
33256 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 7:54 pm to
Are you literally retarded? You can still get stitches or a flu shot if you have a DNR fricktard
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139208 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 7:56 pm to
It's not as easy as not resuscitating.

quote:

I would have to drive 4 hours and produce a bunch of paperwork.


That's how it works.
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 7:58 pm to
DNR orders are medical orders and legally binding documents which indicate that a patient does not wish for life-saving interventions to be provided in the case of cardiopulmonary arrest.

They do not preclude ordinary/routine medical care, first aid, or comfort/palliation. They may similarly be suspended for urgent or elective surgical procedures, but only after detailed discussion with the surgeon and anesthesiologist and only with the patient's informed consent.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
51590 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 8:03 pm to
You don’t resuscitate
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
16664 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 8:08 pm to
If you fall down and you're dying ems will come save your life rather than try to look through legal paperwork. If you code in the hospital chances are they won't revive you if they have all this sorted out ahead of time.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74871 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 8:13 pm to
Treat any injury or illness.
Do not use cpr, shock or machines to prolong life?
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
16457 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 8:15 pm to
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You're a retard and should be banned


What the hell?
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
76084 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 8:30 pm to
quote:

If you start dying, they don't attempt to keep you living.

If you're just injured, you still get medical treatment. Granted, if there is a persistent serious medical condition, that it gets more complicated but that's not what you asked.


Thank you.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
40207 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 8:33 pm to
Get it notarized. Some hospitals will ignore it and tell your family they're obligated to treat.
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6716 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 8:42 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/14/20 at 11:40 pm
Posted by Legion of Doom
Old Metry
Member since Jan 2018
5773 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 8:43 pm to
It means do not resuscitate not do not treat. So if an arm is broken-you do what’s necessary. No you can elect to withdraw care if it comes to that or not to escalate if circumstances warrant that, but that’s a discussion that needs to occur with patient, family, and providers.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59343 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 8:48 pm to
I’m not sure what you are asking. The guidelines for a DND are pretty straightforward. It’s not like they take you out to the pasture when you roll an ankle
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 8:50 pm to
quote:

Get it notarized. Some hospitals will ignore it and tell your family they're obligated to treat


This has not been the case at hospitals I have held privileges at. You are either mistaken or referring to EMTALA provisions in cases of undocumented DNAR.

To sum it up: it is not generally in accordance with the concept of autonomy to ignore a patient's medical wishes. And yes, from another ethical standpoint it would not be consistent with the principles of the Oath. This is to say nothing of the obvious legal ramifications of ignoring a documented DNR/advanced directive/living will/etc.
Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
66985 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 8:52 pm to
They do not zap you with the zapper thingy
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 8:54 pm to
quote:

Do Not Resuscitate - How does this work?

If you have a DNR then doctors can't bleed your bank account dry so naturally they do everything they can to ignore them.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
34298 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 8:55 pm to
Resuscitate is not what you do
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