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re: Do millennials hold businesses to a higher standard?

Posted on 5/31/16 at 7:18 pm to
Posted by Redbone
between St. Amant and Port Vincent
Member since Sep 2012
20738 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 7:18 pm to
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whereas the younger generation seems to be more proactive about finding alternatives to companies that screw you and don't care about customer service.

The funny thing about this is while millennials are expecting everything in their lives to keep them spoiled, managers in the current workforce are reporting that the service the millennials supply as workers is terrible, worse than the service they bitch about.

Who does that sound like .... oh, millennials!!
Posted by DrSteveBrule
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
12545 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 7:24 pm to
I'm a millennial and I hold the company I work for to a higher standard, so I speak from experience that the observations of the OP are accurate.

I wasn't about to let Jamal serve that cop a burger with spit today. TPOS. I reported him to the manager and got him fired.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 7:26 pm to
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The funny thing about this is while millennials are expecting everything in their lives to keep them spoiled, managers in the current workforce are reporting that the service the millennials supply as workers is terrible, worse than the service they bitch about.


Unfortunately, the attitude we see is a product of TMI, particularly shows that people watch that instantly turn them into Alton Brown, Anthony Bourdaine, writers for the rolling stone and wine/beer snobs.

It certainly has led to new business opportunities however.
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 7:32 pm to
Honestly I cut the cord on cable and dont miss is one bit. I was paying $250/mo for my full cable from ATT Uverse and now I have a firestick thats jailbroken from amazon and I have every freaking game on earth and pay $0 monthly for it. So its silly to just pay these cable companies when other options do exist.
Posted by bigblake
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 7:42 pm to
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This post was edited on 7/27/16 at 7:32 pm
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 8:03 pm to
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the context of my original statement is that life has become sequentially less full of hardship (though relative) since the founding of our nation, with very few exceptions.


Has life gotten easier since 1776? Absolutely. Has it really gotten that much better since 1960? I'm not convinced, and at least one old fart agrees with me.

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Diseases are constantly being cured or cures are less painful, new technology makes life easier, and physical work has become something fewer people do than in the past generation. Just the technology shift over the past three generations has been staggering.

I don't see a way anyone looking at the last 4 generations of adults, including millennials, could really argue this. Before millennials retire, it's likely you'll have new transportation technology, work fewer hours and enjoy more leisure time and live longer healthier lives.



How many of those things are impacting my life today, and aren't huge maybes? The bolded part is what I'm especially curious about. Technology surely has changed life but as I spelled out in my last post I feel it has simply changed it in superficial ways. A work day is still a work day, even if I am emailing someone in Canada rather than dealing with a customer down the street. Google can't pay my bills, and it is gonna be a few years before I need a robot to give me a heart transplant. I'll give you that manual labor has decreased, but those jobs still exist, and most younger people I know would prefer they hadn't left. The rest of these cliches about how things are somehow easier now then they were 30 or so years ago are getting really old. How exactly is technology, right now, making it so I don't have to haul my arse out of bed every morning and go to work just like everyone else has done for the last century? Again, I think you need to lay off the facebook. You're letting a vocal minority of SJWs and bloggers convince you of things that just aren't true. Getting paid to work from home or write for a blog is still incredibly rare in this workforce.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122525 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 8:21 pm to
I would say this is pretty accurate. It seems like people who are around the ages of my parents (well actually I would say maybe an age range of 55 and over) seem to take people's word at face value. If someone tells them something, they do not question it, its as if a person's word is all you need to trust someone.

Also, they do adjust to change well so they would rather deal will a bunch of bullshite all the time than to changes companies..
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 8:42 pm to
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How many of those things are impacting my life today, and aren't huge maybes? The bolded part is what I'm especially curious about. Technology surely has changed life but as I spelled out in my last post I feel it has simply changed it in superficial ways.


Having been an adult since the early 80's, I am in total disagreement with you. Life since 1990 has been an incredible journey.

The 70's, people lived in small homes, drove used cars, patched their pants, worked physical labor for the most part, had 3 TV channels, had window units and attic fans, no AC in schools, did book reports using card catalogues, waited on US postal service for any communication not possible over a land line which in some places was a party line.

Technology has made labor, living and communications changes for todays generation that has totally transformed the workforce and homefront.

I remember sending out bids at work via US mail, to 20-30 contractors and calling in pricing on bid day to each one. The simple fax machine gave me back about 10 or more hours a week at work. The computer has revolutionized even that.

Even seemingly superficial changes such as 200 networks of television compared to three has increased information dramatically. I'd call that a bit more substantial.

Millennials who are in their 20's today will work less hours, have more leisure and enjoy a robust lifestyle that their grandparents never had. It's probably not apparent to most who post here, but the average person growing up in the South struggled for the simple, basic things in life. I think young people are prone to believing all the negative talk they hear about their future, but we didn't even think we had one because of the cold war.

Your struggles will be faaaar less related to survival as it does the smaller details of life.

This post was edited on 5/31/16 at 8:46 pm
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 8:47 pm to
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I mean our parents have given us a Clinton-Trump election.


Your parents have given us you.

Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74572 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 8:51 pm to
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The 70's, people lived in small homes, drove used cars, patched their pants, worked physical labor for the most part, had 3 TV channels, had window units and attic fans, no AC in schools, did book reports using card catalogues, waited on US postal service for any communication not possible over a land line which in some places was a party line


You just described my childhood in the 70's and early 80's to a T, even down to the party line and having 3 channels on TV. And we had to go outside and turn the antenna to get the third one!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 8:53 pm to
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You just described my childhood in the 70's and early 80's to a T, even down to the party line and having 3 channels on TV. And we had to go outside and turn the antenna to get the third one!


Yeah, we wore those Toughskin pants from Sears. Mom just kept patching and sewing til school season ended, by then they were two inches too short.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74572 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 8:55 pm to
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Yeah, we wore those Toughskin pants from Sears. Mom just kept patching and sewing til school season ended, by then they were two inches too short


Same here. I'm pretty sure every stitch of clothing I owned for the first 12 years of my life came from Sears & Roebuck.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61530 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 8:59 pm to
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70's, people lived in small homes, drove used cars, patched their pants, worked physical labor for the most part, had 3 TV channels, had window units and attic fans, no AC in schools, did book reports using card catalogues, waited on US postal service for any communication not possible over a land line which in some places was a party line.

That sounds miserable
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:02 pm to
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That sounds miserable


It's relative. When you live through those times you don't have an alternative to compare.

Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80821 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:07 pm to
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That sounds miserable


I used to always watch TV laying on the floor so I could reach up and change the channel dial with my toes.

I was our first TV remote
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33956 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:08 pm to
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cutting the cord at what appears to be a pretty high rate


Because they steal it online. There is no customer service with that.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:10 pm to
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Technology has made labor, living and communications changes for todays generation that has totally transformed the workforce and homefront.



Has it made it easier though? I mean there are still 24 hours in a day. You have the same or similar amount of leisure time, because even though technology has made work more efficient, it hasn't lowere the amount of hours worked, at least by any substantial amount of time. I mean the average work week has decreased less than 3 hours since 1960, and the vast majority of that occurred from 1960-1980.

Dropping a kid off 35 year in the past is going to be a shock regardless of the generation you choose, but is it really the fault of the generation? Every generation has more tech than the generation before them, but as a result more is expected out of that newer generation. It used to take half a day for my grandpa to find a replacement part for his lathe. I can find it and have it ordered within 10 minutes, but does the make me lazy? I mean our generation does more than the one before it in less time, but does that imply that we're lazy entitled brats? Are we supposed to buck the technology available to us just to prove our worth to 60 and 70 somethings?
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74572 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:11 pm to
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70's, people lived in small homes, drove used cars, patched their pants, worked physical labor for the most part, had 3 TV channels, had window units and attic fans, no AC in schools, did book reports using card catalogues, waited on US postal service for any communication not possible over a land line which in some places was a party line.


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That sounds miserable



I lived through that time and I'm living through this time. That time was better is just about every possible way. I know you'll disagree and downvote this post, but that's because you're too young to have experienced it.
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:15 pm to
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Haven't we established that millenials are going to fix the country that our parents destroyed.


Every generation thinks this. Remember the folks who are fricking up the country now used to be hippies. Every generation of young people plans to save the world.

Every older generation thinks they are fricking idiots. Same holds true today.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
18354 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:20 pm to
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Technology has made labor, living and communications changes for todays generation that has totally transformed the workforce and homefront.

I remember sending out bids at work via US mail, to 20-30 contractors and calling in pricing on bid day to each one. The simple fax machine gave me back about 10 or more hours a week at work. The computer has revolutionized even that.



I can agree with you on some things but this illustrates a major point I'm trying to make. If something were to come along that saved me 10 hours of work a week, something else would fill that time. With increased flow of information and capability, expectations have simply risen to the point it nearly has evened out. I'm not trying to insist accomplishing a given task hasn't become easier, I'm asserting that if it's been replaced by 5 other tasks that require the overall same effort, then it's a wash. On average I work 50-60 hours a week with no overtime, and many of my friends work more than that. That's just considered normal for a young professional, and it's true across a lot of fields.

Also, speaking from experience, there are still plenty of areas in the South where small houses and used vehicles are the rule and not the exception. There have always been rich and poor people. We may not have your Cold War, but Islamic terrorism is just a different iteration of the foreign enemy who can strike without notice.

All I'm trying to say here is that when I look at American quality of life I notice just as many similarities as differences. People naturally want to think society is moving forward, but in some ways technology over the last few decades has really only served to more effectively sell people shite, rather than enhance their quality of life.
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