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re: DNA, re: Ancestry searches. How do police get access?
Posted on 12/28/22 at 5:45 pm to Cymry Teigr
Posted on 12/28/22 at 5:45 pm to Cymry Teigr
quote:Have you uploaded all of your genetic genealogy?
But that’s not exactly how it works. Yes you have to trust the company acting as custodian of your DNA records and with GEDmatch that would indeed be an issue, but in general the only way someone is going to use it is someone who has also uploaded their DNA. It’s not like you can go online and browse the results of some 3rd party at will. I understand the hesitancy to an extent but in all honesty I’d be pretty surprised if the vast majority of people’s DNA hasn’t been sequenced already.
If so, where?
If not, why not?
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Posted on 12/28/22 at 5:48 pm to geauxkoo
quote:As I understand it, the data is the property of the company, and they simply sell it to the police, and probably to insurance companies looking for an excuse to deny coverage for "pre-existing" conditions.
If you do an Ancestry search, does it then become public because you give them permission to compare your DNA to others DNA?
Posted on 12/28/22 at 6:25 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
quote:
Have you uploaded all of your genetic genealogy? If so, where? If not, why not?
Yes. Next question?
Posted on 12/28/22 at 6:39 pm to keakar
quote:Police can just send a sample from any rape/murder kit and not make any statement to the genealogy website as to who it is. Det. John Doe can simply submit DNA sample under his own name, John Doe, then if it matches he can expose it as being suspect DNA for further evidence revelations. Otherwise, just sharing DNA with the website /shrug.
nope, you freely give up your rights to it when you do the ancestry search, read the fine print and the extra fine print in lawyer speak.
they dont spell out they will be giving it to the cops for the asking, but they do say you give them the right to share it with anyone and make it part of their shared database. thats how the whole ancestry thing works, it doesnt work if they dont share it with anyone and everyone
Posted on 12/28/22 at 6:48 pm to Sidicous
I did Ancestory.com some years ago.If someone was connected to a heinous crime by sharing my DNA it would be fine by me.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 6:55 pm to Funky Tide 8
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GEDmatch
Does that match GED graduates with a residency program?
Posted on 12/28/22 at 7:47 pm to geauxkoo
I’d think for your run of the mill murder police probably don’t bother with it. Probably depends on who you’re murdering, or how many before it escalates to what it takes to access ancestors’ DNA.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 8:28 pm to geauxkoo
Not sure about paid services, but Golden State killer caught after using free DNA service. Law enforcement was allowed or somehow got access to that.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 8:35 pm to geauxkoo
One of worst things we did. Our kiddo is adopted and we were just looking at origins Because supposedly was part Native American (proven false). Not too long afterwards we get notified from a supposed sibling demanding a meeting. We didn’t answer and received another profanity laden email telling how horrible of people we are.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 8:36 pm to geauxkoo
So if a relative joins Ancestry.com they figure out how to pin something on me even though I’ve done nothing.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 8:39 pm to geauxkoo
Watch bloodline detectives. They have done some great things, identifying Jane an John Does and rapist and murderers after decades of living free.
I think there are 2 services that share data with cold case detectives. There must be a permission that customers check off when using the service. I don't think Ancestry participates.
It will be great when they can use it on current homicides and rapes. I'm all for using it for car thieves and burglers.
I think there are 2 services that share data with cold case detectives. There must be a permission that customers check off when using the service. I don't think Ancestry participates.
It will be great when they can use it on current homicides and rapes. I'm all for using it for car thieves and burglers.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 8:41 pm to dbbuilder79
Yep. I bet you wish you had not put that wad of gum under the desk in 4th grade.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 8:47 pm to Cymry Teigr
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What exactly is someone going to do with access to your DNA that you feel makes it something so private?
The biggest concern is sharing it with potential employers and life insurance companies. I can't help but think that has to be illegal.
Posted on 12/29/22 at 8:08 am to Cymry Teigr
quote:Which ones, when did you do it, and what was the reason?
Yes. Next question?
Posted on 12/29/22 at 8:56 am to geauxkoo
They did the same thing in Alabama for a 20 year old double homocide. Can’t find enough jurors to have a trial though.
Ozark Al 1999 murders if you want to look it up.
Ozark Al 1999 murders if you want to look it up.
Posted on 12/29/22 at 10:16 am to zippyputt
There's Ancestry and 123 and such, but then there's GEDmatch. People voluntarily upload their results to that to find more possible family, etc and that one is where the police can get there with just asking for it. Its likely they have a disclaimer about being "open".
This post was edited on 12/29/22 at 10:18 am
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