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re: DNA expert, NAACP weigh in on evidence in Maddison Brooks case
Posted on 7/29/23 at 8:05 am to imjustafatkid
Posted on 7/29/23 at 8:05 am to imjustafatkid
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Don't care about DNA at all. Those guys all contributed to her death and clearly and obviously raped her. They all deserve the death penalty.
So in your ideal legal system, we presume guilt, ignore evidence, and hand out illegal sentences ad hoc?
That seems logical. I can't imagine how that system could be abused.
This post was edited on 7/29/23 at 8:06 am
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Posted on 7/29/23 at 8:10 am to SlowFlowPro
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Don't care about DNA at all
Sounds like an OJ juror
Posted on 7/29/23 at 8:14 am to Quatrepot
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Just one black juror is all it takes
Thank you SCOTUS.
Unanimous verdict requirement is horseshite.
Posted on 7/29/23 at 8:19 am to udtiger
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Unanimous verdict requirement is horseshite.
Naw. The CJ system has been corrupted way too much to swing in favor of the prosecution. We need a return to where convictions become difficult, which is the way the system was designed.
With all of the political prosecutions going on right now, the warning signs should be loud and clear.
Posted on 7/29/23 at 8:20 am to SlowFlowPro
Plenty of people were still acquitted without unanimity. Negates jury nullification.
Posted on 7/29/23 at 8:27 am to SlowFlowPro
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We need a return to where convictions become difficult, which is the way the system was designed.
Which will lead to self-help justice.
Posted on 7/29/23 at 8:40 am to SlowFlowPro
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So in your ideal legal system, we presume guilt, ignore evidence, and hand out illegal sentences ad hoc?
DNA is not the only evidence here. It was clear they were to blame long before this development.
Posted on 7/29/23 at 8:42 am to SlowFlowPro
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We need a return to where convictions become difficult, which is the way the system was designed.
Convictions are nearly impossible right now, mostly because leftist DAs will simply not bring charges or will default to sweetheart plea deals for the worst humanity has to offer.
Posted on 7/29/23 at 8:44 am to imjustafatkid
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Convictions are nearly impossible right now,
This is an outright lie
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mostly because leftist DAs will simply not bring charges or will default to sweetheart plea deals
So you argue convictions are impossible while relying on the fact that convictions occur.
Prosecutors around the country, even places like Orleans and EBR, still have over a 90% conviction rate.
Posted on 7/29/23 at 9:31 am to imjustafatkid
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Don't care about DNA at all. Those guys all contributed to her death and clearly and obviously raped her. They all deserve the death penalty.
If it’s true there isn’t proof of internal DNA, then it’s going to be difficult for the prosecution to prove she was “clearly and obviously raped”.
Now, don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying these guys are stellar citizens. But the prosecution has to have some sort of evidence to obtain a conviction.
It’s similar to the posters here hoping someone in the hood will rat out the shooter(s) who killed the girl at the train tracks.
Without some sort of proof, (the gun, and something concrete linking them to the site at the time of the murder) there will never be a conviction in her case.
Sad, just reality.
Posted on 7/29/23 at 9:38 am to SlowFlowPro
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We need a return to where convictions become difficult, which is the way the system was designed.
THIS… it ain’t asking too much for the state to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt… public outcry and uninformed opinions shouldn’t matter… what happened to that young lady is a terrible tragedy… but the remedy to this a tragedy can’t be just to lock up everyone on assumptions that she would never have associated with these guys if she wasn’t drunk
Posted on 7/29/23 at 9:49 am to riverdiver
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It’s similar to the posters here hoping someone in the hood will rat out the shooter(s) who killed the girl at the train tracks.
It’s clear now no one from the “hood” did that… my opinion from the beginning is someone who knew her killed her…
Posted on 7/29/23 at 9:50 am to SlowFlowPro
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Prosecutors around the country, even places like Orleans and EBR, still have over a 90% conviction rate.
I am not getting in the middle of y'alls infantile argument but don't use "conviction rates" as proof of anything. That's a politically manufactured number created by plea deals and dismissals. They only go to trial when it's a slam dunk case so they can cite the conviction rate at election time. It's amazing it isn't 100% tbh.
Posted on 7/29/23 at 10:15 am to SouthPlains
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Jarrett Ambeau This dude is everywhere now. I worked for him my 1L summer when he was just a piddly DUI lawyer out in Gonzales. Now he’s trying his damndest to be Louisiana’s Johnnie Cochran.
Or saucer lipped Ben Crump
Posted on 7/29/23 at 10:18 am to lepdagod
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THIS… it ain’t asking too much for the state to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt
Have you decided that juries are a bad thing?
Posted on 7/29/23 at 10:20 am to boudinman
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Who's the coroner and who did the official autopsy?
I dunno but when I read "her leaked autopsy, which was exclusively obtained by WBRZ" it sounds like there's no way in hell they should be having those.
So is it legal to be 'leaking' an autopsy to anyone that's not the family?
Posted on 7/29/23 at 10:33 am to Deactived
Didn’t one or two of the guys arrested said they had sex with Madison? Wtf would they lie to cops about this?
Posted on 7/29/23 at 10:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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This is an outright lie
No, it's the truth. You can't convict people of a crime if you won't even try.
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Prosecutors around the country, even places like Orleans and EBR, still have over a 90% conviction rate.
Means nothing.
ETA: To be clear I don't care what a DA's "conviction rate" is. I care about whether or not victims are getting justice. Refusing to bring charges is just as bad as someone who is clearly guilty getting acquitted in court.
This post was edited on 7/30/23 at 12:46 am
Posted on 7/29/23 at 10:52 am to SouthPlains
Little known fact: Johnnie Cochran was born in Shreveport.
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