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re: DNA expert, NAACP weigh in on evidence in Maddison Brooks case

Posted on 7/28/23 at 11:47 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 11:47 am to
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You may need to review this again.

Clearly states they were having sex

You never met a teen male who lied about having sex?

ETA: the driver's testimony isn't an admission by the alleged rapists, also.

Washington denied seeing sex or having sex.
This post was edited on 7/28/23 at 11:49 am
Posted by Swoozie
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 11:53 am to
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This story and the related DNA story that ran two days ago by the WBRZ Investigative Unit are just the latest examples of how far WBRZ has fallen. They are nothing more than a tabloid at this point. Just absolutely disgraceful, tasteless stories.

Probably trying to taint the jury pool and encourage riots for more clicks.
Posted by BigBinBR
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 11:53 am to
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I mean, if DNA evidence was present they would just claim consensual sex.


And then the prosecution would have the BAC and can try and convince the jury of the ability to consent.

The lack of DNA isn’t going to derail the prosecution, it just adds another layer where they have to explain to a jury why there might not be DNA. For the defense it gives them a new avenue to try and convince a jury member that their client is not guilty.

Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 11:55 am to
What about this DNA?

quote:

an autopsy for Brooks found no DNA from the suspects internally, though there was unspecified genetic material from one of the suspects on her genital area
Posted by TheRouxGuru
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 11:55 am to
You’re trying so hard to be invited to a cookout you’d never attend
Posted by Jameson2954
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 11:55 am to
This statement/lack of evidence was leaked. NAACP demands the drop of charges lol. This is going to be tried as a whole case, not one piece of evidence and not in the media.

Guilty.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 11:56 am to
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You’re trying so hard to be invited to a cookout you’d never attend

What are you talking about?
Posted by TheRouxGuru
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 11:58 am to
You’re the smartest person in this room, YOU figure it out
Posted by tigerskin
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 11:58 am to
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You never met a teen male who lied about having sex?


A teen male lying about watching 2 other people have sex…….no
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 11:59 am to
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though there was unspecified genetic material from one of the suspects on her genital area

This tracks with Washington's statement (which also involves him denying sex), FYI.

Again, at best that's sexual battery and not rape. For the juvenile (I forget if he was tried as an adult or not).
Posted by dallastigers
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 11:59 am to
Didn’t first news report on these leaked lab results state that Washington’s dna was found externally on genitalia?

I also thought there was evidence of recent vaginal sex but not evidence of injuries or trauma showing vaginal sex was forced (which wasn’t expected). I might be mixing up forensic pathologist’s report with state lab results about the evidence of vaginal sex.

The timeframe of assault to backside couldn’t be determined by the state lab or didn’t find sufficient male DNA in lab swabs from area (lab sounds transphobic), but both reports mention it as well.

I think news mentioned rape kit wasn’t performed until after her organs harvested and taken off life support. I don’t remember what medical treatments she received before put on life support for good byes and the organ donations, but she was taken in for trauma from being hit by a car. I don’t think she was brought to hospital with preservation of external dna evidence being the first concern. Is it possible some other external dna was lost in her medical and surgical procedures?

This post was edited on 7/28/23 at 12:08 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 12:00 pm to
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A teen male lying about watching 2 other people have sex…….no

He saw something, obviously, but the specifics of what he saw will likely be lacking. It can be destroyed on cross.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 12:02 pm to
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. Is it possible some other external dna was lost in her medical and surgical procedures?

Sure, but this creates a gap in the prosecution's case.

They are going to have to fill that gap with supposition and not evidence. The defense is likely going to attack this gap very strenuously.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 12:06 pm to
Oof look at that lawyers instagram

He has a like Indiana Jones themed sleeve tattoo

Why are 40 year olds so cringe
Posted by Hobnailboot
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 12:06 pm to
I can’t imagine what her dad is thinking right now.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 12:06 pm to
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He saw something, obviously, but the specifics of what he saw will likely be lacking.


Well good thing his lawyer cleared up what those things were…”sexual acts.” But yes we know lawyers are scum and he will be able to deny ever admitting that
Posted by BigBinBR
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 12:16 pm to
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What about this DNA?


I’m talking about no DNA internally as it relates to vaginal penetration.

Again, DNA not being found internally is not a case killer. It’s just something else that the prosecution has to explain to a jury. I’m sure that the prosecution can present logical reasons as to why it isn’t there, but they are still going to have to explain it.

If DNA was found vaginally then the prosecution would have been able to hammer that point, and the defense would have had to try to make up some reason why it was there.
Posted by Tortious
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 12:27 pm to
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The trial will be all about what evidence there is, and if the State can present enough evidence that is deemed credible enough for the jury to eliminate any other reasonable scenario that could be interpreted from that evidence.


I don't know why you're getting down voted here. You're not wrong.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 12:35 pm to
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But yes we know lawyers are scum and he will be able to deny ever admitting that

He won't have to. It's not evidence.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 12:44 pm to
Posters are on here putting me in the undesirable position of defending SFP, but he’s exactly correct.
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