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re: Disagree with government on Covid restrictions? Well you’re going on a terror watch list
Posted on 8/14/21 at 2:08 pm to TxTiger82
Posted on 8/14/21 at 2:08 pm to TxTiger82
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but it has become very clear that collective voluntarism has failed during this pandemic.
That’s what’s failed during the pandemic?
I’d say government overreach and lack of transparency by government agencies has been the true failure. tSCiENCE establishment has been wrong on nearly everything at some point. We are also still finding the WHO who covered up this thing. Let’s not forget far left government actors sending Covid positive patients back into nursing homes while they dine at the French Laundry.
frick you for calling the people the failure, it’s been the government.
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Posted on 8/14/21 at 2:09 pm to TxTiger82
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You mean like voting rights?
We haven’t had an erosion of voting rights, LeBron
Posted on 8/14/21 at 2:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I disagree
Sorry, but I must have missed the part of right-wing discourse around COVID that emphasizes people's responsibility to public health and the common good. What ever happened to doing it for the person next to you? The right wing doesn't seem to care about that anymore ... it is all ME ME ME.
I wish we could do this without government coercion, I really do. But let's not act like public health doesn't fall within the purview of the government and the state. Hell most state constitutions literally have a "health and welfare" clause explicitly written in. It is absolutely within the power of state and local governments to enact and enforce measures that protect public health.
Your right to swing your fist ends at my nose.
This post was edited on 8/14/21 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 8/14/21 at 2:10 pm to TxTiger82
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We cannot count on people to simply do the right thing for the good of the public. We've gone from Rosie the Riveter to whining about masks and vaccines. SAD!
Can you not see the contextual circumstances that may cause a person to be a little distrustful of anything that the government is promoting right now?
Posted on 8/14/21 at 2:10 pm to TxTiger82
quote:Where is the lack of “personal responsibility”?
Now, it is all freedom and no responsibility.
quote:I agree with Ronaldo.
Classifying anti-vaxers and COVID deniers as terrorists goes to far -- I completely agree with that -- but
The minute you stated “but”, you showed you did not actually believe what came before.
quote:As was said many times before, you progressives do not care for freedom or liberty.
it has become very clear that collective voluntarism has failed during this pandemic. We cannot count on people to simply do the right thing for the good of the public. We've gone from Rosie the Riveter to whining about masks and vaccines. SAD!
Liberals are LONG dead.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 2:10 pm to TxTiger82
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Classifying anti-vaxers and COVID deniers as terrorists goes to far -- I completely agree with that
That’s where that sentence should end. There is no “but” after that. You are an authoritarian hack.
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but it has become very clear that collective voluntarism has failed during this pandemic.
Got a Spoiler Alert for you: this virus is likely going to be around for the rest of our lives. I’m not locking down and masking for pussy tyrants like you.
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We cannot count on people to simply do the right thing for the good of the public.
Said every murderous dictator in history.
This post was edited on 8/14/21 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 8/14/21 at 2:11 pm to TxTiger82
quote:There is that “but” again, so, you don’t actually wish to do it without government coercion.
I wish we could do this without government coercion, I really do. But
Posted on 8/14/21 at 2:13 pm to TxTiger82
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You mean like voting rights?
The best part about this is you undoubtedly think you’re the most intelligent person posting in this thread.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 2:13 pm to Scruffy
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As was said many times before, you progressives do not care for freedom or liberty.
This is absolutely not true. I believe in freedom and liberty as they are properly defined. Right-wing thought has completely distorted and warped these concepts, and the result is downright selfishness and the abject refusal to do anything that might benefit the public as a whole.
This post was edited on 8/14/21 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 8/14/21 at 2:13 pm to TxTiger82
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You mean like voting rights?
Yeah it’s too much and racist to ask someone to show an ID to vote, but it’s not to much to always have on your papers just to dine in a restaurant. Whatever happened to “My Body My Choice”?
This post was edited on 8/14/21 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 8/14/21 at 2:16 pm to OMLandshark
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Yeah it’s too much and racist to ask someone to show an ID to vote, but it’s not to much to always have on your papers just to dine in a restaurant.
Republican legislatures -- many of which remain in power thanks to gerrymandered district lines (e.g., Texas) -- are literally rigging voting processes so that they can overturn local election results. This is a Stalin-esque attack on the legitimacy of elections. What was that Stalin said? Something about counting the votes being more important than casting them?
This post was edited on 8/14/21 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 8/14/21 at 2:16 pm to TxTiger82
quote:Defined by whom?
I believe in freedom and liberty as it is properly defined.
You?
Biden?
The US government?
Maybe the UN?
quote:So, the answer to countering the freedom to choose is to remove the freedom entirely for the greater good?
Right-wing thought has completely distorted and warped these concepts, and the result is downright selfishness and the abject refusal to do anything that might benefit the public as a whole.
I mean, that hasn’t gone wrong before.
This post was edited on 8/14/21 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 8/14/21 at 2:17 pm to TxTiger82
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Republican legislatures -- many of which remain in power thanks to gerrymandered district lines
You’re a clown
Posted on 8/14/21 at 2:17 pm to Klark Kent
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such as mandating vaccines for interstate travel
They gonna put up checkpoints everywhere to keep me from crossing state lines?
Posted on 8/14/21 at 2:17 pm to TxTiger82
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believe in freedom and liberty as it is properly defined
Your posts in this thread prove this is absolutely a lie. For someone that thinks so highly of himself you should at least have a grasp of the meaning of the words you type.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 2:18 pm to TxTiger82
quote:Do I need to pull up the LA gerrymandered voting districts to counter that its the right doing this?
many of which remain in power thanks to gerrymandered district lines (e.g., Texas)
Posted on 8/14/21 at 2:19 pm to TxTiger82
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Republican legislatures -- many of which remain in power thanks to gerrymandered district lines (e.g., Texas) -- are literally rigging voting processes so that they can overturn local election results. This is a Stalin-esque attack on the legitimacy of elections. What was that Stalin said? Something about counting the votes being more important than casting them?
Wait, now you’re talking about republicans rigging elections?
Posted on 8/14/21 at 2:19 pm to OMLandshark
Hell
They called Trump names after closing borders
If you support this, fu** you
They called Trump names after closing borders
If you support this, fu** you
Posted on 8/14/21 at 2:20 pm to Open Your Eyes
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you undoubtedly think you’re the most intelligent person posting in this thread.
No, experience on this board (nearly 20 years now) has taught has taught me that there are plenty of highly intelligent conservative posters on the board. The poster I responded to initially, RogertheShrubber, is one of them, and we've engaged in many debates over the years.
I'm sorry if you feel threatened by a well articulated liberal argument. I know you are probably not used to reading one on this board, as conservative snark is the predominant mode of talking on here.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 2:21 pm to OMLandshark
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OK, so I got stats for him and asked him where he thought Florida and New York’s death per capita was. He said Florida was easily #1 and New York was in the 20s… when it’s the reverse. These were his only rebuttals when I had actual stats:
“I follow the science”
“I listen to the experts”
He did not have a single stat to back up anything he was saying.
Watch that interview of Yuri Besmenov and he will explain the process the communists use that leads to this. It’s called demoralization. People who are brainwashed into demoralization literally will not accept fact or truth other than what they’ve been told even when presented with facts and proof to the contrary.
The NPC meme is spot on. They don’t think or analyze anything they just repeat their programmed talking points
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