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Posted on 7/17/22 at 3:39 pm to keakar
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at gettysburg they won, they could have just walked into the capital unopposed, after that they could have arrested lincoln and congress and forced their surrender and the war would be won.
instead, they just fricked around and got drunk celebrating winning the battle rather then finish winning the war. all because they never expected to win so easily and they had no orders what to do after taking gettysburg
by the time they got their shite together, the north got rearmed and reinforced and turned the battle for the union.
Everything you just posted is completely wrong.
Posted on 7/17/22 at 3:39 pm to SaintlyTiger88
If they weren't so disorganized after the First Bull Run, they could have taken DC.
Posted on 7/17/22 at 3:40 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Had they gone scorched earth like Sherman did at the very start of the war as Jackson suggested they could possibly have won.
Or they needed the likes of England or France for support.
Or they needed the likes of England or France for support.
Posted on 7/17/22 at 3:49 pm to Rockbrc
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Not much-the north fought most of the war with one hand tied behind it’s back
What makes you say that?
Posted on 7/17/22 at 3:49 pm to SaintlyTiger88
give it a rest
Posted on 7/17/22 at 4:09 pm to PiscesTiger
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Had Great Britain agreed to sign on, who knows? And France.
So no. Lol
Can’t win a war by yourself…You cant win.
Posted on 7/17/22 at 4:17 pm to SaintlyTiger88
The southern states were at massive disadvantages comparing population and industrial manufacturing capability.
I think the CSA organizers were hoping the US would let them go.
Posted on 7/17/22 at 4:19 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Never had a chance. No one should hold Jefferson Davis/Robert E Lee out as heros. They got a lot of poor people killed in an unwinnable “rich mans” war. And no matter what your grandpappy told you, it was all about slavery.
Posted on 7/17/22 at 4:21 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Also keep in mind Lincoln was not easy to work for having fired McClellan and co. The Union was searching for an identity and a nail in the coffin. They got that with Grant, but truly got it from Sherman on his March to Sea. Those two implemented some brutal policies. They worked.
And JEB Stuart point shaved like a motherfricker.
And JEB Stuart point shaved like a motherfricker.
This post was edited on 7/17/22 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 7/17/22 at 4:23 pm to greenbean
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Never had a chance. No one should hold Jefferson Davis/Robert E Lee out as heros. They got a lot of poor people killed in an unwinnable “rich mans” war. And no matter what your grandpappy told you, it was all about slavery.
This is where I parked my steamboat.
Posted on 7/17/22 at 4:24 pm to philly444
Several classes of several major colleges in the confederacy were severely depleted b losses during the war. The Harvard boat races were never cancelled. Check out Shelby Foote and his opinion.
Posted on 7/17/22 at 4:24 pm to SaintlyTiger88
The South had a chance to take over DC during the early battles. Lee pulled them back.
Posted on 7/17/22 at 4:30 pm to SaintlyTiger88
I think you all underestimate how far Lincoln was willing to go to keep the Union together. The south had no chance.
Posted on 7/17/22 at 4:32 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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The South had a chance to take over DC during the early battles. Lee pulled them back.
Ok, so the President and Congress move to another city and continue to function
Posted on 7/17/22 at 4:34 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Secession started before the southern military was ready for prime time. They didn't really expect a fight, so it was somewhat understandable, but one should always plan for the worst. Second mistake was not listening to the likes of Stonewall Jackson who believed the only hope for victory was quickly and brutally taking Washington DC (which was very vulnerable) and then negotiating a peace before the nothern war machine could get cranked up.
I believe they could have won had they started militarizing earlier and seceeded when they were ready to launch a deadly invasion to take DC. There was no path to victory in a long, protracted conflict.
I believe they could have won had they started militarizing earlier and seceeded when they were ready to launch a deadly invasion to take DC. There was no path to victory in a long, protracted conflict.
Posted on 7/17/22 at 4:34 pm to greenbean
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And no matter what your grandpappy told you, it was all about slavery.
Why did the Emancipation Proclamation only apply to confederate states, and not all states?
Posted on 7/17/22 at 4:34 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Makes you appreciate what we pulled off in the Revolutionary War even more so. The Colonies were even more outmatched against the British Empire than the Civil War disparity and they pulled it off.
Posted on 7/17/22 at 4:42 pm to GetCocky11
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Ok, so the President and Congress move to another city and continue to function
I think the belief is that having a major win makes the northern population hate the war and want to quit as well as getting backing by GB and or France.
Posted on 7/17/22 at 4:42 pm to SoonerK
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Everything you just posted is completely wrong.
#Keakar
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