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Posted on 12/20/19 at 8:36 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
No. Most of the Indian wars were over well before world wars and the final subjugation of the Comanches was horseback warfare and wasn’t really translatable to the trench, artillery bloodbath of WWI and beyond.
Posted on 12/20/19 at 8:44 pm to cwill
Patton commanded one of the earliest "mechanized" attacks during the Pancho Villa expedition, using Dodge touring cars.
Of course he went on to be the foremost proponent of armored warfare in the US Army, commanding the US tank school in France and leading them into battle before being wounded.
Of course he went on to be the foremost proponent of armored warfare in the US Army, commanding the US tank school in France and leading them into battle before being wounded.
Posted on 12/20/19 at 8:46 pm to BuckyCheese
That wasn’t an Indian war.
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:20 pm to cwill
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That wasn’t an Indian war.
If you read the OP you will see he mentions Patton and Pancho Villa.
FO
Posted on 12/21/19 at 10:07 pm to BuckyCheese
Black Jack Pershing gained his nickname because he once commanded a unit of black cavalry, aka Buffalo Soldiers.
Posted on 12/21/19 at 11:32 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Well it’s an interesting premise, but mistaken none the less. One of the first things both French & British officers noticed about American units once they reached the front in WWI was the appalling losses they sustained by making the same mistakes the French & British made in 1914 through 1916.
Posted on 12/22/19 at 12:22 am to rmnldr
Now the Spanish American war not too long prior to the Great War May have taught some lessons about early modern warfare
Posted on 12/22/19 at 5:14 am to fr33manator
I believe the main thing we learned in the Spanish American war was the .30-40 Krag was inferior to the Mauser.
Posted on 12/22/19 at 5:23 am to AbuTheMonkey
“That were still putting down Native American unrest while he was a kid. “
Exterminating the Indians is what we were doing, don’t church it up. We aren’t kids anymore.
Exterminating the Indians is what we were doing, don’t church it up. We aren’t kids anymore.
Posted on 12/22/19 at 5:36 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
Didn’t hurt
Posted on 12/22/19 at 5:40 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
Idk dude read a freaking book
Posted on 12/22/19 at 6:42 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
Ask William Fetterman about those Indian tactics.
Posted on 12/22/19 at 8:00 am to The Torch
Britain almost won revolution war
Posted on 12/22/19 at 10:36 am to ecb
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“That were still putting down Native American unrest while he was a kid. “
Exterminating the Indians is what we were doing, don’t church it up. We aren’t kids anymore.
Not a whole lot of “exterminating” going on in the 1880’s, home slice. Outside of Wounded Knee, a relatively minor incident, it was mostly trying to corral tribes and groups who didn’t want to move to reservations, social and physical infrastructure development, and the like.
Posted on 12/22/19 at 10:37 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
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experience in guerilla warfare made the American military used to fighting in unconventional ways thereby naturally being able to adapt to the modern battlefield where fighting in straight lines is a death sentence?
The Americans were WOEFULLY unprepared for wwi in terms of tactics.
Posted on 12/22/19 at 10:38 am to jmarto1
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Possibly the marines?
No. The Army Ranger Battalions.
Posted on 12/22/19 at 10:39 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
The Indian wars showed deficiencies in the army. Tbh I don’t think it made that big an impact compared to our actions in the Philippines (though maybe it helped with the guerrillas) and then WW1. Of course, the military is always evolving and probably underwent its biggest changes post ww1 and specifically 1922 act
Posted on 12/23/19 at 8:42 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
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Patton fought Apache
Patton born 1885.
Did he fight them in a former life or as a toddler?
Posted on 12/23/19 at 9:05 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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To be fair, the U.S. had a few years of watching the quagmire of WWI battles and being able to see "that ain't working".
Not really. They basically made the same rookie mistakes that everyone else made when they joined the fight.
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