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re: Did i see a possible dry run for a terrorist attack?
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:27 pm to CocomoLSU
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:27 pm to CocomoLSU
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So why the frick wouldn't they do it, if only to see how much attention they would garner if they walked into a WM with backpacks on..?
that's an even bigger what if than what if they were just students looking for somebody in the store.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:27 pm to Michael J Cocks
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No, you would go down in history as the guy who saw terrorist walk in a wal mart and you tried to contact authorities in a timely manner.
I missed this thread, but that's just dick right there.
To insinuate that GL wants to "be famous" for this is just straight up dick.
And in all honesty, if I had seen this happen, I'd be curious/suspicious as a motherfricker too. And just the same, if I had seen two white dudes (or really any other race aside from middle-eastern), I'd have likely not even thought twice about it. But that's the world we live in now. And sometimes, harboring certain prejudices is not some huge bad thing (and can be safe).
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:27 pm to GeneralLee
Maybe they were looking for a friend who works there? It seems to fit.. a couple of guys walk in and look at the cash registers to see if their friend is working.. he's not there, so they leave. No big deal.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:28 pm to stout
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Like I said earlier if they were practing to blow the place up, what good would a bomb placed 20 to 30 feet in do? Wouldn't they want to get to the center of the store to make it more effective? I mean since you think terrorist are so smat and all doesn't setting the bomb off in the least effective spot seem dumb?
The entrance would be a FAR better place to bomb to me...nobody hangs out in the middle of a WM. But all the registers and shite are near the entrances.
Ya'll are just nitpicking GL to be assholes at this point.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:28 pm to GeneralLee
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The front of this store, next to the cash registers, would've been the place where they could've killed the most people.
So now we are back to worrying about body count?
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In terms of economic impact, I am talking on a national level
and I still one wal-mart does not = as big of an economic impact as you say.
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It would take an OKC type of bomb to physically demolish a WalMart building, not the type of bomb you can carry in on backpacks.
Now you are a bomb expert? Call me crazy but I think if you take out the center structure support/beams that you could bring one down with a backpack bomb.
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and from higher crude oil prices.
Again, comparing a threat to wal-mart and a threat to Iran making crude oil go up is a huge stretch on your part.
This post was edited on 6/14/08 at 6:28 pm
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:29 pm to Michael J Cocks
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that's an even bigger what if than what if they were just students looking for somebody in the store.
No doubt
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:29 pm to CocomoLSU
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Ya'll are just nitpicking GL to be assholes at this point.
I'm just calling him out on being an alarmist. There are hundreds of plausible explanations for what these two guys did, but the current political atmosphere makes him automatically assume the worst, even though it's highly unlikely.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:30 pm to CocomoLSU
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The entrance would be a FAR better place to bomb to me...nobody hangs out in the middle of a WM. But all the registers and shite are near the entrances.
You missed the part were he said terrorist aren't concerned about body count didn't you? If that is the case why not try to take the whole thing down instead of just killing people in the front of the store?
This post was edited on 6/14/08 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:31 pm to CocomoLSU
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I missed this thread, but that's just dick right there.
To insinuate that GL wants to "be famous" for this is just straight up dick.
No, it's not dick. I'm not insinuating anything, I am saying that he could have done something way more productive if he was so concerned. How do you claim to be proactive like he is, if all you did was watch, then wait an hour to call 911 with no description whatsoever.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:31 pm to GeneralLee
You did the right thing contacting the authorities...
However, I have a different theory...
Maybe these guys were from the Illinois chapter of the United Food and Commercial Workers Union...
The backpacks were loaded with union handouts and they were there to meet the night shift...
Maybe they saw Wal-Mart's muscle, turned, and skeedaddled...did you happen to notice a bunch of guys in the store wearing jackboots, carrying nightsticks, and maybe leading a German Shepard???
However, I have a different theory...
Maybe these guys were from the Illinois chapter of the United Food and Commercial Workers Union...
The backpacks were loaded with union handouts and they were there to meet the night shift...
Maybe they saw Wal-Mart's muscle, turned, and skeedaddled...did you happen to notice a bunch of guys in the store wearing jackboots, carrying nightsticks, and maybe leading a German Shepard???
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:32 pm to jwall3
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Because if it garners attention then what? You don't do it? These idiots are looking to blow people up, not jack the safe. They don't care if you notice once they are pulling the trigger.
Say the goal is getting to the center of the two entrances of a Super WM...i.e. center of all the checkout aisles. I don't think it's out the realm of possiblity to think they would plan something to see if they could even get that far. So maybe these dudes were seeing how much attention they would attract with the backpacks. And maybe they were planning to "do something" when the place was busier and there would be more casualties.
Who the frick knows. I'm just saying it's not out of the realm of possiblity that this could be a precursor to something bad. Ya'll are acting like it's utterly ridiculous to assume that something bad COULD happen.
The lack of care is what causes shite like terror attacks to happen in the first place.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:33 pm to Michael J Cocks
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that's an even bigger what if than what if they were just students looking for somebody in the store.
And maybe that's all they were doing.
But the former is not illogical.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:33 pm to stout
I saw a white guy walk into wal mart with a backpack today. Should I alert the authorities? Also a black person with one at the vegetable stand. Clearly terrorists.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:34 pm to baytiger
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I'm just calling him out on being an alarmist. There are hundreds of plausible explanations for what these two guys did
And I'm not saying he's not.
But I'm also not lambasting him for feeling uneasy about it either.
And of those "hundreds of plausible explanations," I'm sure they're not all peaches and cream happy ones.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:35 pm to CocomoLSU
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:35 pm to Michael J Cocks
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No, it's not dick. I'm not insinuating anything, I am saying that he could have done something way more productive if he was so concerned. How do you claim to be proactive like he is, if all you did was watch, then wait an hour to call 911 with no description whatsoever.
Nah, you're exactly trying to be a dick. That part is clear.
I mean, he called fricking 911. I'm sure he told them all he could.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:36 pm to CocomoLSU
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And of those "hundreds of plausible explanations," I'm sure they're not all peaches and cream happy ones.
but most of the likely ones are.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:38 pm to CocomoLSU
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But the former is not illogical.
NO! in my honest opinion, there is nothing logical about doing a dry run on a place like Wal Mart.
If their concern was like you said, see how far you can get in with the back packs without people noticing, that would be the dumbest fricking risk you could possibly take. You said yourself in this day and age and the climate we live in people can't ignore this shite. They wouldn't risk months or years of planning on someone raising an eyebrow and calling HS and having their home raided and have their arse on a plane to Cuba.
When they have the back packs, it's fricking go time, not a practice run.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:40 pm to Michael J Cocks
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NO! in my honest opinion, there is nothing logical about doing a dry run on a place like Wal Mart.
If their concern was like you said, see how far you can get in with the back packs without people noticing, that would be the dumbest fricking risk you could possibly take. You said yourself in this day and age and the climate we live in people can't ignore this shite. They wouldn't risk months or years of planning on someone raising an eyebrow and calling HS and having their home raided and have their arse on a plane to Cuba.
When they have the back packs, it's fricking go time, not a practice run.
I agree with all of this FWIW
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:41 pm to CocomoLSU
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The lack of care is what causes shite like terror attacks to happen in the first place.
GeneralLee, FWIW, you did right.
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