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re: Did Google pull a "Gavin Belson" on search manipulation w/ Hillary Clinton
Posted on 6/10/16 at 10:56 am to Kracka
Posted on 6/10/16 at 10:56 am to Kracka
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So to me that sounds like it's more about power and information than it is money
well money = power
but it is about power. this is just proof that our fedeal government is too big/powerful
if it lacked this expansive power, corruption would decrease or be eliminated
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 10:59 am to SlowFlowPro
oh shite. since this story broke, go type in "Hillary Clinton ind" and you'll now get an indictment result 
Posted on 6/10/16 at 10:59 am to SlowFlowPro
I'm sorry but I think we need to back the conspiracy train up a bit on this one.
There are a litany of reasons why predictive search behaves the way it does as well as why google search result ranking turn out they way they do.
eta: predictive text is probably picking up the new searches by users who are testing the validity of the article
There are a litany of reasons why predictive search behaves the way it does as well as why google search result ranking turn out they way they do.
eta: predictive text is probably picking up the new searches by users who are testing the validity of the article
This post was edited on 6/10/16 at 11:01 am
Posted on 6/10/16 at 11:00 am to SlowFlowPro
It makes perfect sense that Hilary Clinton india would come up and indictment wouldn't.
She was secretary of state and would have business with major Asian country. That is reality.
Anything referring to an indictment is speculation and not reality.
Reality...continually fricking up lives.
The SEO groups that work for Clinton are public information. Now let's see you find who they are.
She was secretary of state and would have business with major Asian country. That is reality.
Anything referring to an indictment is speculation and not reality.
Reality...continually fricking up lives.
The SEO groups that work for Clinton are public information. Now let's see you find who they are.
Posted on 6/10/16 at 11:05 am to mahdragonz
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It makes perfect sense that Hilary Clinton india would come up and indictment wouldn't.
She was secretary of state and would have business with major Asian country. That is reality.
how many stories have been written about her in india v her indictment?
how many SEARCHES have been made regarding her time in india v her inictment?
do you honestly believe that her trips to India were more popular to American google users?
quote:
Anything referring to an indictment is speculation and not reality.
it's a very real possibilty
tons of "Speculative" stories are posted/searched and show up in Google results
HRC winning the presidency is speculative. i bet if i type "Hillary Cilnton P" the first result is "Presidency"
Posted on 6/10/16 at 11:07 am to PrivatePublic
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If you type in "Hillary Clinton is a bitc", the one and only search suggestion is
Hillary Clinton is a bitcoin.
RIGGED AS frick
I typed in "Hillary Clinton les" and the only three suggestions from Google were:
hillary clinton leslie odom jr
hillary clinton leslie knope
hillary clinton leslie odom
Once I got to the b, Google made no suggestions, even with the further addition of the i, a, and n.
Posted on 6/10/16 at 11:11 am to mahdragonz
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It makes perfect sense that Hilary Clinton india would come up and indictment wouldn't.
She was secretary of state and would have business with major Asian country. That is reality.
Anything referring to an indictment is speculation and not reality.
Dude. Come on.
Posted on 6/10/16 at 11:12 am to SlowFlowPro
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oh shite. since this story broke, go type in "Hillary Clinton ind" and you'll now get an indictment result
That could be because since the story broke everyone is searching these terms
Posted on 6/10/16 at 11:12 am to SlowFlowPro
Want an awesome theory?
Imagine that Hilroy's SEO group PAID this dude in the link from the OP to do his shite-tastic, technically incompetent video.
People say goolge is manipulating results. Conservative blogs latch on. High traffic sites like TD give credence to it.
Now the word indictment is linked to this topic and not anything related to emails.
Now links that speculate on indictment are pushed into the void (page 2 of google).
BOOOOOM
Context of Hilary indictment changed and the people on this thread did it!
-side note, I think that the term itself is probably a problem for a lot of people who think Hillary is going to jail. They probably think indictment is spelled
Indikement bc it sounds like dike.
Imagine that Hilroy's SEO group PAID this dude in the link from the OP to do his shite-tastic, technically incompetent video.
People say goolge is manipulating results. Conservative blogs latch on. High traffic sites like TD give credence to it.
Now the word indictment is linked to this topic and not anything related to emails.
Now links that speculate on indictment are pushed into the void (page 2 of google).
BOOOOOM
Context of Hilary indictment changed and the people on this thread did it!
-side note, I think that the term itself is probably a problem for a lot of people who think Hillary is going to jail. They probably think indictment is spelled
Indikement bc it sounds like dike.
This post was edited on 6/10/16 at 11:14 am
Posted on 6/10/16 at 11:12 am to mahdragonz
OK, I don't know much about how these search programs work, but how do they tell which stories are true and which are not? Do they rank articles based on how much the programmer trusts the site?
But, the scary thing here is that this seems to evidence of an attempt at information control. When I was a child, my father believed pretty much everything Walter Cronkite said on the evening news. People are now more aware of manipulation by the old media so we don't just accept "news" as true. But most of us think that the search engines are just about numbers and are not edited. If this is happening, we are moving into a new area of information manipulation. I have always claimed the power of the press is to decide what information we do not get to hear. If you can't trust google to not censor your search, we are entering farther into the inability of ordinary people to determine the truth and the ability of a small group to manipulate public opinion.
But, the scary thing here is that this seems to evidence of an attempt at information control. When I was a child, my father believed pretty much everything Walter Cronkite said on the evening news. People are now more aware of manipulation by the old media so we don't just accept "news" as true. But most of us think that the search engines are just about numbers and are not edited. If this is happening, we are moving into a new area of information manipulation. I have always claimed the power of the press is to decide what information we do not get to hear. If you can't trust google to not censor your search, we are entering farther into the inability of ordinary people to determine the truth and the ability of a small group to manipulate public opinion.
Posted on 6/10/16 at 11:14 am to mahdragonz
quote:
meltdragonz
Keep it up, very entertaining.
Posted on 6/10/16 at 11:15 am to mahdragonz
quote:
side note, I think that the term itself is probably a problem for a lot of people who think Hillary is going to jail. They probably think indictment is spelled
Indikement bc it sounds like dike.
smug, anti-intellectual progressivism on display in real time
Posted on 6/10/16 at 11:19 am to mahdragonz
quote:
-side note, I think that the term itself is probably a problem for a lot of people who think Hillary is going to jail. They probably think indictment is spelled
Indikement bc it sounds like dike.
i seriously hope you're getting a hand job from Huma, Leena Dunham, or Chelsea for this level of white knighting.
This post was edited on 6/10/16 at 11:20 am
Posted on 6/10/16 at 11:21 am to SlowFlowPro
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then why is EVERY OTHER search engine conflciting?
Why does the exact same thing happen when you Google "Bill Cosby Indi", compared to Yahoo.
The first predictive search result on Google was Indiana, and indictment was nowhere to be found in any of the suggested results, compared to Yahoo where the first predictive result was indictment.
*Not taking a side, just pointing this out ...
Posted on 6/10/16 at 11:22 am to 3nOut
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i seriously hope you're getting a hand job from Huma, Leena Dunham, or Chelsea for this level of white knighting.
He and Rex take turns knob gobbing so nobody gets a sore jaw.
Posted on 6/10/16 at 11:22 am to monkeybutt
Fun suggestion:
The difference in that term with baidu and Google is more interesting than Google and bing.
The difference in that term with baidu and Google is more interesting than Google and bing.
Posted on 6/10/16 at 11:49 am to dinosaur
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If you can't trust google to not censor your search, we are entering farther into the inability of ordinary people to determine the truth and the ability of a small group to manipulate public opinion.
It's widely reported that Facebook is censoring out conservative views on their walls and recommendations.
Google is NOT censoring results from what we can tell. They are, however, altering the auto-complete forms on their site for Hillary Clinton related searches where for other topics they recommend the most popular related searches.
Let's say you wanted to see news articles about Hillary Clinton's criminal activity.. Type in "Hillary Clinton Criminal Activity" into the google search bar and this is what google recommends about halfway through the world "criminal":
Do the same for BING and before you even get to the 3rd letter in "criminal":
Try Hillary Clinton Indictment and see what happens in Google, Yahoo, and Bing.
Per the video in the OP, Google analytics show that practically no one is actually searching for "hillary clinton crime bill 1994" yet Google suggests those over vastly more popular searches that are not as pleasant for Hillary supporters.
This post was edited on 6/10/16 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 6/10/16 at 11:53 am to dewster
Posted on 6/10/16 at 11:57 am to Bunta
quote:
Bunta
Their suggestions are: 1. Hitler
2. Hitler's Wife
3. 1940's Comedian that played Hitler
4. Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump
This post was edited on 6/10/16 at 12:08 pm
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