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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today
Posted on 4/14/21 at 4:24 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 4/14/21 at 4:24 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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the only reason you care, is the dead giy is black and the cop white.
She doesn't realize how obvious her racist personality is.
Everyone lets please go back to the case, me included, because this back and forth with Ams is only feeding into her mental illness. She has a desperate need to be " somebody" and unfortunately we are giving her what she wants. Why does this matter? After this is over the " rush" of being someone will lead to a massive crash.
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 4:28 pm
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Posted on 4/14/21 at 4:25 pm to SOSFAN
Yep. Blowing this thread up with emotion.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 4:32 pm to AMS
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im a commie for not being a bootlicker. Sorry my support for holding the few bad police accountable for their crime and negligence triggers you so much that you and your ilk froth at the mouth slinging around gender pronouns like they are meaningful
just for the record, do you hold Floyd responsible for anything that happened that day leading up to his death?
I can give you a few reminders of the situation at hand...feel free to make sure the jurors are paying attention
1. Floyd was on drugs when he went into the store to buy cigerrettes with a fake 20
2. Clerk said " oh yes, he was high"
3. Floyd had recently been hospitalized twice in one mouth for overdose per his girlfriend. For taking irregular sized pills. Had a similar reaction the day of his death.
4. Floyd fell asleep in his car directly outside the store moments after he exchanged the fake 20. Gee, is that the Fentanyl kicking in?
5. floyd has 3 other adults in his vehicle
6. 2 of the 3 lied about their identity, we were led to believe floyd never knew them. But..."just catching a ride home"
7. Floyd resisted getting into the police SUV
8. Floyd refused to stay in the back seat claiming he could not breathe. Black Stranger says "you can't win man, just listen"
9. Floyd left drugs in the backseat of the police SUV
10. Floyd in 2019 swallowed his drugs during another arrest...just to point out there is a pattern to pay attention to.
11 Floyd spent time in prison, once held a load gun to the head of a pregnant woman..
But you want to talk about boot-licking cops...defending them that day???
You defend the repeat criminal with an addiction problem as though he were your son or husband.
You should have zero emotional connection to his death.
90% clogged artery
his heart was blown up, not in good shape...
Posted on 4/14/21 at 4:35 pm to AMS
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lets stick with facts
Homeboy overdosed.
The world is better with him dead.
Next?
Posted on 4/14/21 at 4:39 pm to SOSFAN
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with Ams is only feeding into her mental illness. She has a desperate need to be " somebody" and unfortunately we are giving her what she wants. Why does this matter?
An attention whore and true believer..yikes.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 4:40 pm to SOSFAN
I figure testimony is over for the day?
The question about the defendant taking the stand is relevant now as it seems we're nearing the end of the defense's case
I would assume Chauvin will not take the stand as it seems there's no need to... no reason to allow him to be grilled by the prosecution when the defense has already poked a good number of holes in the prosecution's case
The defense will rest either tomorrow or Friday, no?
The question about the defendant taking the stand is relevant now as it seems we're nearing the end of the defense's case
I would assume Chauvin will not take the stand as it seems there's no need to... no reason to allow him to be grilled by the prosecution when the defense has already poked a good number of holes in the prosecution's case
The defense will rest either tomorrow or Friday, no?
Posted on 4/14/21 at 4:42 pm to AMS
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well im not defending GF in any way. im just against negligent and homicidal police. shouldnt be so controversial.
I dont know Chauvin, he might be the biggest douche bag pos cop ever.
He still didnt murder GF.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 4:43 pm to rt3
I think defense rest tomorrow and we have closing comments friday.
Guy on Court Tv said Dr. Fowler was very good. Held up well under the cross and introduced reasonable doubt without question.
I do not see Chauvin testifying.
Guy on Court Tv said Dr. Fowler was very good. Held up well under the cross and introduced reasonable doubt without question.
I do not see Chauvin testifying.
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 4/14/21 at 4:50 pm to AMS
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Sorry my support for holding the few bad police accountable for their crime and negligence triggers you so much
What about the cop who killed Ashley Babbit?
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:01 pm to SOSFAN
Questions regarding Chauvin actually testifying, is truly one that would keep any defense lawyer up LATE LATE at night, likely for quite some time. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.... Hero or Goat......
I have tried a few murder cases to verdict, and quite a few more serious / aggravated felonies. Last attempt murder was convinced that Defendant "had to testify"..... and of course he wanted to. It did not work out well..... he torpedoed own case, "opened the door", etc. Still wrestle with that call to the day. In other situations, i can tell you the opposite story / result. Here, I don't see how they cannot put DC on the stand, and his prior testimony [experience] will help him.
Serious question (and admittedly until recently i have not followed this case daily), but what is the "downside" of him testifying? What BOMB can the prosecution drop that they have not yet? Any medical / forensic questions, "I dunno" is a perfectly acceptable response. Can go into his training, polices of the department, but can't opine on medical / scientific testimony previously presented.
Lastly, without directly quoting some of the previous posts, it should be remembered that DC does not have to PROVE a damn thing. If RD exists, not guilty is the answer.
I have tried a few murder cases to verdict, and quite a few more serious / aggravated felonies. Last attempt murder was convinced that Defendant "had to testify"..... and of course he wanted to. It did not work out well..... he torpedoed own case, "opened the door", etc. Still wrestle with that call to the day. In other situations, i can tell you the opposite story / result. Here, I don't see how they cannot put DC on the stand, and his prior testimony [experience] will help him.
Serious question (and admittedly until recently i have not followed this case daily), but what is the "downside" of him testifying? What BOMB can the prosecution drop that they have not yet? Any medical / forensic questions, "I dunno" is a perfectly acceptable response. Can go into his training, polices of the department, but can't opine on medical / scientific testimony previously presented.
Lastly, without directly quoting some of the previous posts, it should be remembered that DC does not have to PROVE a damn thing. If RD exists, not guilty is the answer.
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:07 pm to Buddy Red
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Serious question (and admittedly until recently i have not followed this case daily), but what is the "downside" of him testifying? What BOMB can the prosecution drop that they have
One I appreciate your post. It gave me a different perspective on him testifying.
I don't think he should not because of any bomb that could be dropped but the prosecutor is going to demand he answer with yes or no and that could help push a narrative. Another reason is any bias a jurist may have had could have been reduced by other testimony but putting him front and center may bring those emotions back.
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:07 pm to Buddy Red
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RD exists, not guilty is the answer.
If no one call tell you how much weight was on the drug addict’s back then there is nothing but reasonable doubt.
The commie that is AMS avoids that question every time.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:10 pm to roadGator
Watching the same testimony as the jury has I don't see 12 saying guilty. There is reasonable doubt without question.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:13 pm to AMS
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more expert testimony that GF was suffering from hypoxia and struggling to breath instead of resisting. the defense witness from yesterday looks even worse now. that use of force expert couldn't tell the difference in struggling for breath and resisting.
Why y'all continue to try to appeal to a VERY biased poster (AMS) that claims to be some sort of MD, yet doesn't know the difference between 'breath' and 'breathe' over the course of hundreds of pages...
Come on, she's clearly a troll. Give it up so those of us that can't watch the actual trial can get some legit updates.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:16 pm to RazorBroncs
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poster (AMS) that claims to be some sort of MD
Definitely not. Let’s see...
She believes the hypopharynx compression hypothesis
She believes a pulmonologist can determine breaths per minute from that cell phone video
She thinks a pulmonologist can determine end expiratory lung volume from a cell phone video
She knows enough to think she has it all figured out, but anyone with a more than Wikipedia level knowledge of the subjects understands those points are completely bogus and meant to fool a jury.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:18 pm to SOSFAN
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I don't think he should not because of any bomb that could be dropped but the prosecutor is going to demand he answer with yes or no and that could help push a narrative. Another reason is any bias a jurist may have had could have been reduced by other testimony but putting him front and center may bring those emotions back.
Agreed. Very valid point. And the Judge seemingly would 100% force the issue of "Just yes or no" answer, without any explanation. (Which I have rarely, if ever seen). Normally, its "answer, yes or no, and then you can explain your answer sir / mamn".
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:21 pm to Buddy Red
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Buddy Red
Having tried murder cases before, what is your opinion of this judge so far?
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:22 pm to Buddy Red
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And the Judge seemingly would 100% force the issue of "Just yes or no" answer, without any
That has happened throughout the trial and there is absolutely no way the prosecutor is going to allow Chauvin to explain his options.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:23 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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Having tried murder cases before, what is your opinion of this judge so far?
I'd like to know that also. I think he has made enough decisions that an appeal would be a given if Chauvin was found guilty.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:27 pm to SOSFAN
I was of the opinion that he was being fair to both sides other than the issue of jury sequestration. He did make a good point that sequestering them right after the other shooting could be a signal that they are in danger and actually have the reverse effect.
But I don’t watch any court cases so I have nothing to base that on.
But I don’t watch any court cases so I have nothing to base that on.
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