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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today
Posted on 4/3/21 at 7:25 pm to GreenRockTiger
Posted on 4/3/21 at 7:25 pm to GreenRockTiger
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Not sure if he was suicidal.
I guess you didn't see the part where he continuously took the same drugs that almost killed him, repeatedly landing him in the hospital. He knew the result, and continued the exact same behavior.
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Posted on 4/3/21 at 7:27 pm to GreenRockTiger
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seeing the need for all this - any of it - riots, tee shirts, kneeling, fists, trial, etc.
The issue is this is not nor has ever been Chauvin on trial and justice. This has become the " blm wants just for all past perceived injustices ". Floyds brother broadcast monday that if they didn't get justice there they would get it all over America. This is do or die to the blm/leftists movement. If Chauvin doesn't get the maximum it will be looked at as " we will never get equality " and declare war. The big blue cities will burn and you will see attacks on whites all over America. The media and blm have made it this way.
Posted on 4/3/21 at 7:28 pm to Hangit
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He knew the result, and continued the exact same behavior.
Born a victim and lives a victim - doesn’t know any better, doesn’t want to know any better.
Did he know the result of taking drugs or was incapable of realizing it?? Or didn’t care.
Or too selfish to give it up?
Posted on 4/3/21 at 7:31 pm to Hangit
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guess you didn't see the part where he continuously took the same drugs that almost killed him, repeatedly landing him in the
According to Floyd's girlfriend, during her testimony, George had overdosed less than 2 months before his death and the symptons, saying his stomach hurt and foaming at the mouth, were the exact same. He nearly died then He was in the hospital for a week.
Posted on 4/3/21 at 7:32 pm to kengel2
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And how fast did ems get to him after this point? Its almost like they were there within a minute, which is faster response than id get.
in emergencies, you don't wait for EMS to start CPR.
First responders are well aware that you should start CPR ASAP upon discovery of an absent pulse. DC knew there was no pulse disregarded this and did not allow anyone to start CPR until minutes later.
Posted on 4/3/21 at 7:34 pm to AMS
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in emergencies, you don't wait for EMS to start CPR.
Police officers don’t necessarily have to perform cpr.
Posted on 4/3/21 at 7:36 pm to AMS
quote:So they should've put their lives in danger of the Corona because this drug head had to be restrained after acting a fool? frick that.
in emergencies, you don't wait for EMS to start CPR.
Posted on 4/3/21 at 7:37 pm to AMS
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First responders are well aware that you should start CPR ASAP upon discovery of an absent pulse. DC knew there was no pulse disregarded this and did not allow anyone to start CPR until
How convenient that you forgot to mention that the EMT also testified that they had to pull off and drive down the street due to the crowd to continue working on him.
Posted on 4/3/21 at 7:38 pm to AMS
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in emergencies, you don't wait for EMS to start CPR.
So your a cop now?
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First responders are well aware that you should start CPR ASAP upon discovery of an absent pulse. DC knew there was no pulse disregarded this and did not allow anyone to start CPR until minutes later.
Meh, not with a combative person. You dont start shite until the scene is 100% secure and you know for a fact they arent taking.
Posted on 4/3/21 at 7:38 pm to SOSFAN
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What's sad is all his family members and friends saying how important he was yet they sat around watching him kill himself daily with drugs and didn't do a damn thing.
It’s all for the narrative to get a wrongly convicted cop. They are hoping to make millions off of this. If they cared so much, they would have gotten him some help. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
Even if manslaughter or 3rd degree murder charge is brought, it still won’t be enough to satisfy the thugs.
Posted on 4/3/21 at 7:46 pm to kengel2
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Meh, not with a combative person
lmao theres a grand total of 0 pulseless people (the only situation you do CPR) in history that have ever been combative.
new TV show idea. Pulseless combat. It will be super boring and short rounds. mostly because the combatants just lie there and die
This post was edited on 4/3/21 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 4/3/21 at 8:02 pm to AMS
Were the officers CPR certified?
Also are they required to administer CPR?
Also are they required to administer CPR?
Posted on 4/3/21 at 8:04 pm to SOSFAN
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The big blue cities will burn and you will see attacks on whites all over America. The media and blm have made it this way.
Yes I totally agree with this, unfortunately
Posted on 4/3/21 at 8:11 pm to theenemy
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Were the officers CPR certified?
Also are they required to administer CPR?
a first responder bystander was on the scene who was prevented from her attempts to render aid
Posted on 4/3/21 at 8:13 pm to AMS
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a first responder bystander was on the scene who was prevented from her attempts to render aid
Out of uniform and with no ID to identify her.
Bystander being the key word.
Are police required to allow bystanders access to the scene and the suspect?
Posted on 4/3/21 at 8:19 pm to theenemy
What law or court precedence requires police to start CPR or allow a bystander access to the subject?
Doesn't there need to be a legal basis to that to use it against DC criminally?
Doesn't there need to be a legal basis to that to use it against DC criminally?
This post was edited on 4/3/21 at 8:23 pm
Posted on 4/3/21 at 8:48 pm to RealDawg
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I don't think in any way Chauvin tried to kill GF. I can admit at some point, with multiple officers present, they could have simply sat him up. Maybe he fights back, if so then back to the ground. It had been multiple minutes since he actively resisted (granted he was being held down by two men while in cuffs).
Again I think he was still caught up in the 10 minute struggle they just had, the crowd who saw none of that are being idiots, EMS was rolling up etc. He just held his position instead of reassessing. He was talking calmly with the other officer.
My main issue happens once they take his pulse and said he didn't have one then Chauvin also takes it. If I am on the jury, this is the point when I have a problem.
Pretty obv at this point the man isn't moving and you just said he didn't have a pulse. Could he still cause harm? Maybe but he is in cuffs, you have backup, he has already been searched.
Most sensible response I have seen in what I have read of this thread.
I wouldn't likely convict on anything from what has been presented, however remaining on his neck for minutes after he became quiet and not moving is troubling.
Look at it this way; He's suddenly not a threat, so they are ok to get off of him, just because EMS shows up? EMS is going to contain him?
Doesn't make sense.
Floyd OD'd.
Chauvin is a dickhead cop that should have been fired.
Not guilty of killing Floyd. Nothing beyond a reasonable doubt to prove anything in my eyes.
Posted on 4/3/21 at 8:54 pm to theenemy
quote:yes. per minnesota statute officers who patrol in a motor vehicle are trained in first aid which includes CPR.
Were the officers CPR certified?
quote:No but thats not even tangentially relevant to a manslaughter charge.
Also are they required to administer CPR?
The fact they chose to forego and disallow aid knowing GF was pulseless supports claims they had showed no regard for the apparent danger to GF's life. Disregard for human life+unintentional homicide is the criteria for 2nd degree murder. im not saying they are surely guilty of murder 2, but am saying their indifference left them vulnerable to more severe charges than manslaughter.
This post was edited on 4/3/21 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 4/3/21 at 8:54 pm to BuckyCheese
I am not a lawyer and definitely not familiar with Minnesota state law. Can Chauvin get manslaughter now if he’s been charged with murder?
This seems like a classic case where they overcharged him to satisfy the mob and he might get off free because of it.
This seems like a classic case where they overcharged him to satisfy the mob and he might get off free because of it.
This post was edited on 4/3/21 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 4/3/21 at 8:58 pm to BuckyCheese
For a murder charge...they have to prove the knee caused the death, correct?
Not rendering aid can be used against him civilly and administratively...but ultimately they have to prove the knee is what killed him...rendering aid is kinda moot.
Not rendering aid can be used against him civilly and administratively...but ultimately they have to prove the knee is what killed him...rendering aid is kinda moot.
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