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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today

Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:09 pm to
Posted by BayouCatFan
Member since Jul 2008
4580 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:09 pm to
I think its a horrible miscarriage of justice DC was even charged, but he is screwed. HLN was saying powerful D.C. law firms are writing all the motions for the prosecution while the defense only has one lawyer. That tells me the left will do anything to get a conviction.

If its even close when jury goes to deliberation someone will get to the jury and threaten them with releasing their names and addresses. We just saw the left steal a presidential election. You guys are kidding yourselves if you really believe DC wont be found guilty.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:21 pm to
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Speaker 1: (06:59)
So, by handcuffing somebody you’ve taken away some of their ability to harm you?

Richard Zimmerman: (07:04)
Absolutely.



someone handcuffed has some less ability to cause harm. fact. this the quote you bolded to be the most glaring example of perjury


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That person is handcuffed, and the threat level is just not there.

in reference to their original threat level and the threat/force balance. context is a bitch. nice try misrepresenting quotes to fit your narrative.
This post was edited on 4/3/21 at 6:28 pm
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15883 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:27 pm to
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writing all the motions for the prosecution while the defense only has one lawyer. That tells me the left will do anything to get a


Well that 1 Defense attorney is kicking the other 12 attorneys arse .

I've watched the whole trial and if this weeks witnesses are all the prosecution has they might as well end the trial now.

Nelson turned Floyds gf into a damn good witness...for the defense. Made the dwarf mma fighter look stupid ( and has his losing mma record introduced into the court record. Made the prosecutions top witness ( the guy that told everyone he was going to be Floyds voice) refuse to testify and said he would only take the 5th. And neutralized the cop by showing he was a desk cop. A good week for Chauvin.
Posted by wileyjones
Member since May 2014
2720 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:31 pm to
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AMS
how many hours a day do you dedicate to this thread?
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15883 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:35 pm to
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how many hours a day do you dedicate to this thread


He leaves when the trial goes live and then reappears that night to weave his web of bullshite. He likes to cherry pick 1 part of the case and ignores the other 99 items because they dont fit his narrative. He has had his arse handed to him today by tgrbaitn08.
This post was edited on 4/3/21 at 6:36 pm
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:36 pm to
There are plenty of examples of handcuffed detainees hurting cops or other people.

I would think police officers should know that.

If the cop said the threat level is just not there whena person is handcuffed, that cop is lying.

I am not watching the trial - so I’m only reading what is posted here.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:44 pm to
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There are plenty of examples of handcuffed detainees hurting cops or other people.


and zimmerman said someone handcuffed can still pose a threat. its a lie to claim he said otherwise.

quote:


If the cop said the threat level is just not there whena person is handcuffed, that cop is lying.

I am not watching the trial - so I’m only reading what is posted here.



it might seem that way only reading what is posted here , because they are cherry picking portions. misrepresenting quotes about how after handcuffs are on safety becomes the officer's responsibility, because the threat is just not the same as before the handcuffs.
This post was edited on 4/3/21 at 6:45 pm
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143859 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:54 pm to
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AMS


Are you going to be disappointed with a 3rd degree manslaughter verdict?

As of now that is the most serious charged he can be convicted on. But if the jury is objective, I expect a full acquittal.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15883 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:54 pm to
Why do the handcuffs even matter? George Floyd died due to drugs, heart disease with blockage and covid. That combined with the police causing him stress and him freaking out caused his death and you wanna nitpick about some damn handcuffs. You wanna help society? Spread the word that if the police arrest you don't fight and follow directions.
Posted by SOLA
There
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:57 pm to
Isn’t AMS a girl?
Posted by MSUDawg98
Bear the F Down
Member since Jan 2018
13912 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:57 pm to
I've watched just a few hours of the trial...the ebonics speaking Speedway clerk. There were so many issues and the defense didn't even bother to object to the leading questions. She literally sat there and was prompted to provide commentary to the video. The black guy on HLN was excited because he thought her testimony was the key.

There's that one witness who kept arguing with the defense. The judge making them take the jury out while he admonished the witness is going to be reason enough for DC to win an appeal. That should have been done in full view of the jury. His comments afterwards just made the appeal case stronger.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15883 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 7:00 pm to
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Isn’t AMS a girl?


I'm not sure but he/she is a little bi*ch.

It would make sense because he can pick the smallest issue and nag and nag and nag for hours and days so yeah probably a girl.
This post was edited on 4/3/21 at 7:03 pm
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
60710 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 7:05 pm to
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I've watched just a few hours of the trial


I don’t want to watch bc I already have my opinions. It’s going to be a shite show no matter what - but I find the banter on here about it entertaining.

Thanks for your description, too.

quote:

the ebonics speaking Speedway clerk.

Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 7:09 pm to
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Why do the handcuffs even matter?


once handcuffed that persons safety becomes the responsibility of the officer.

once in that position it is criminal to disregard danger to that person's life, things like if they stop breathing or having a pulse.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
60710 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 7:14 pm to
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once handcuffed that persons safety becomes the responsibility of the officer.

once in that position it is criminal to disregard danger to that person's life, things like if they stop breathing or having a pulse.


Is this law or just an assumption?
Posted by MSUDawg98
Bear the F Down
Member since Jan 2018
13912 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 7:15 pm to
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once handcuffed that persons safety becomes the responsibility of the officer.
So maybe instead of physically restraining him, all 4 officers should have made him ride the lightning for 9 minutes.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
46897 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 7:17 pm to
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I don’t want to watch bc I already have my opinions


What is your opinion on exactly how suicidal GF was? To me, he seemed fairly determined to end it in the last few months of his life.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15883 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 7:19 pm to
I understand all that but even after the handcuffs went on the police could not have stopped the drugs from helping kill him. I'm not sure with,medics being on site from the beginning , that he could have been saved with the letal combination of drugs, heart disease with blockage, sickle cell , covid 19 and at the time extremely high blood pressure.

What's sad is all his family members and friends saying how important he was yet they sat around watching him kill himself daily with drugs and didn't do a damn thing.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
60710 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 7:20 pm to
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What is your opinion on exactly how suicidal GF was?


Not sure if he was suicidal. But he lived a rough life. Usually that comes to a rough end. His sorry life was just following a sorry pattern.

Not seeing the need for all this - any of it - riots, tee shirts, kneeling, fists, trial, etc.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33742 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 7:23 pm to
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once in that position it is criminal to disregard danger to that person's life, things like if they stop breathing or having a pulse.


And how fast did ems get to him after this point? Its almost like they were there within a minute, which is faster response than id get.
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