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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today
Posted on 4/2/21 at 8:05 pm to dgnx6
Posted on 4/2/21 at 8:05 pm to dgnx6
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So would your opinion change if cpr was given on ground with bystanders threatening the officers and GF still died?
it would show they did not recklessly disregard their role in the imminent danger to GF's life. manslaughter would be worst case instead of best case for DC. He would probably earn a not guilty decision in your hypothetical. unfortunately in reality DC disregarded his concerned colleagues and the crowd due to his reckless disregard for GF's life.
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Posted on 4/2/21 at 8:13 pm to AMS
The whole video shows that they did regard his life up until you say they don't.
I think people need to understand something when you are in Floyd's position, I have been there. Two things are going to happen, you either go to jail and face the court, or you die.
Floyd chose death.
I think people need to understand something when you are in Floyd's position, I have been there. Two things are going to happen, you either go to jail and face the court, or you die.
Floyd chose death.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 8:14 pm to dgnx6
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The whole video shows that they did regard his life up until you say they don't.
you mean the video with his colleagues asking DC to alter his restraint. the video that shows a crowd gather at the egregious sight. the video that shows the police figure out he has no pulse and then do nothing different for 2 minutes. everyone except DC was concerned lmao
This post was edited on 4/2/21 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 4/2/21 at 8:15 pm to AMS
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it would show they did not recklessly disregard their role in the imminent danger to GF's life. manslaughter would be worst case instead of best case for DC. He would probably earn a not guilty decision in your hypothetical. unfortunately in reality DC disregarded his concerned colleagues and the crowd due to his reckless disregard for GF's life.
The fact of the matter is that we will never know if it would have saved his life or not. It is a very grey area.
Did DC go too far, maybe he did? I think that you could even agree at this point that this had nothing to do with race, which is the big factor surrounding this entire case.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 8:17 pm to dgnx6
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I think people need to understand something when you are in Floyd's position, I have been there. Two things are going to happen, you either go to jail and face the court, or you die.
So it’s your position that no matter where in the United States GF got arrested, if he exhibited the exact same behavior, he would have died precisely the same way because every other cop would have also put his knee on his neck and he would have died?
Posted on 4/2/21 at 8:28 pm to Geekboy
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So it’s your position that no matter where in the United States GF got arrested, if he exhibited the exact same behavior, he would have died precisely the same way because every other cop would have also put his knee on his neck and he would have died?
No, he would have died in every other city in the United States because the man was pumped full of drugs.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 8:30 pm to ColoradoTiger1987
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Did DC go too far, maybe he did? I think that you could even agree at this point that this had nothing to do with race, which is the big factor surrounding this entire case.
I dont believe it was any type of race based or a hate crime.
Its apparent DC disregarded his role in the danger to GF's life. he literally disregarded the concern of his own colleagues and a crowd for 2 minutes after he knew GF had no pulse and 3 minutes of no breathing.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 8:35 pm to AMS
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he literally disregarded the concern of his own colleagues and a crowd
While GF disregarded his own life by ingesting both meth and fentanyl in his system so he wouldn’t go to jail for a very long time since he was a convicted felon for you know sticking a gun at a pregnant woman.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 8:38 pm to AMS
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you mean the video with his colleagues asking DC to alter his restraint. the video that shows a crowd gather at the egregious sight. the video that shows the police figure out he has no pulse and then do nothing different for 2 minutes.
everyone except DC was concerned lmao
You are literally talking about 2 minutes of the entire interaction.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 8:40 pm to Geekboy
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So it’s your position that no matter where in the United States GF got arrested, if he exhibited the exact same behavior, he would have died precisely the same way because every other cop would have also put his knee on his neck and he would have died?
No you either just shut the frick and go to jail, he was going no matter what at that point, or you fight. You might fight, get subdued and still go to jail, or your dead because police officers have the right to protect themselves.
The entire situation happened because of GF. No one else.
And I'm not really sticking up for Chauvin, but he never abused the guy, hit him, do anything that seemed out of control.
He may be a giant pos. He's had several complaints about him. But the current Police Chief was previously on the review board for misconduct. He and others let this guy continue to work for them.
This post was edited on 4/2/21 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 4/2/21 at 8:54 pm to lsuson
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While GF disregarded his own life by ingesting both meth and fentanyl in his system so he wouldn’t go to jail for a very long time since he was a convicted felon for you know sticking a gun at a pregnant woman.
maybe. although that has nothing to do with DC's reckless disregard for his role in danger to GF's life, which is why we are having this trail.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 8:55 pm to dgnx6
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You are literally talking about 2 minutes of the entire interaction.
oh my bad I forgot that there is no crime that can ever be committed in 2 minutes. and those 2 minutes will cost DC years of his life in jail.
This post was edited on 4/2/21 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 4/2/21 at 8:56 pm to Geekboy
I'm curious how CNN would handle the OJ case now.
IIRC, back in 95 they essentially kind of stayed down the middle, commenting both for and against OJ.
I quite certain in 2021, they would be all worshipping of Johnnie Cochran and VERY anti Mark Fuhrman and the LAPD.
IIRC, back in 95 they essentially kind of stayed down the middle, commenting both for and against OJ.
I quite certain in 2021, they would be all worshipping of Johnnie Cochran and VERY anti Mark Fuhrman and the LAPD.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 8:59 pm to dgnx6
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or your dead because police officers have the right to protect themselves.
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police officers have the right to protect themselves.
how many police have ever needed to defend themself from someone entirely subdued face down, handcuffed, without a pulse?
0 is the answer. 0 will always be the answer.
This post was edited on 4/2/21 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:07 pm to AMS
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how many police have ever had to defend their life from someone they had entirely subdued face down, handcuffed, without a pulse? 0 is the answer. 0 will always be the answer.
Who put himself in that position? I don’t know what was going through that cops mind but I do know the cop was there because someone called the cops.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:09 pm to AMS
So cops are doctors now? Man they deserve a pay raise.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:11 pm to gizmothepug
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Who put himself in that position? I don’t know what was going through that cops mind but I do know the cop was there because someone called the cops.
you think GF forced DC to disregard his concerned colleagues and a crowd for minutes after knowing he was no longer breathing and was without a pulse? cops cant just disregard human life because someone called the cops
DC put himself in this position and deserves every minute he spends in jail.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:13 pm to AMS
No
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:15 pm to kengel2
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how many police have ever needed to defend themself from someone entirely subdued face down, handcuffed, without a pulse?
0 is the answer. 0 will always be the answer.
So cops are doctors now? Man they deserve a pay raise.
Doctors, much like police (or any human ever), have nor will ever need defend themselves from someone entirely subdued face down and without a pulse.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:15 pm to AMS
You think Floyd called the cops on himself? I’ve continued to say I don’t know what the cop was thinking or doing but I do know if GF had made better choices he would probably still be alive.
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