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Posted on 4/2/21 at 6:57 pm to bbeck
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Is ole baw gonna serve time or will there be riots?
When OJ was cut loose black people burned their own neighborhoods down anyway.
They are going to riot whatever the verdict.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 7:00 pm to AMS
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murder charges
Definition of Different Types of Murder Charges
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First-Degree Murder First-degree murder usually falls into one of the following two categories: Premeditated, intentional killings (like stalking someone before murdering them) Felony murder
Even you cannot think that this was premeditated.
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Second-Degree Murder Second-degree murder is generally either: An unplanned, intentional killing (reacting in the heat of the moment when angry) A death caused by a reckless disregard for human life
DC was emotionally in control the entire time from what we can see from the body cam footage. He went so far as to even assist GF getting onto the stretcher, so this one is out.
This was not what is defined as a “crime of passion” which is what you see mostly with a spouse killing another spouse.
This is clearly an overcharge on the state.
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Third Degree Murder/Manslaughter Third-degree murder (also called manslaughter) is an unplanned, unintentional killing that is not part of another felony. It can be either: Involuntary (you fall and push someone off a ledge by accident) Voluntary (you punch someone and unintentionally kill them)
3rd Degree Murder and Manslaughter are basically one in the same. DC is charged with both. One can only assume that the latter carries a lesser sentence.
When you look at the definition of this, one can reasonably infer that the information we know now, that drugs had something to do with GFs death.
My question to you is that if he had been completely sober, would he have died then in the same situation? He would have not have had to even be on the ground IMHO.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 7:00 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Can you imagine what this site would be like during the OJ trial.....
Posted on 4/2/21 at 7:05 pm to dukke v
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Can you imagine what this site would be like during the OJ trial.....
Well I can tell you, this trial will not go 11 months. That would probably be the all time highest post thread on TD.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 7:06 pm to ColoradoTiger1987
Here is the actual statute from Minnesota that applies in this case:
I stopped reading after the word "causes"
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609.195 MURDER IN THE THIRD DEGREE.
(a) Whoever, without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years.
I stopped reading after the word "causes"
Posted on 4/2/21 at 7:06 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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They are going to riot whatever the verdict.
I'm counting on it and so is my bourbon.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 7:08 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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When OJ was cut loose black people burned their own neighborhoods down anyway.
No they didn’t.
LINK
Posted on 4/2/21 at 7:11 pm to tketaco
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They are going to riot whatever the verdict.
I'm counting on it and so is my bourbon.
We should make progressive black people riots a drinking game. Might never sober up.
They love to destroy things. Their own people, their own neighborhoods...
Posted on 4/2/21 at 7:11 pm to dragonNRG45
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I stopped reading after the word "causes"
Nice find, I didn’t even think to google the MN statutes.
Manslaughter is the only charge in play given that definition of third degree murder. DC did a hold that is part of the MN police handbook. This is not something that he did off on his own.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 7:14 pm to ColoradoTiger1987
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609.205 MANSLAUGHTER IN THE SECOND DEGREE.
A person who causes the death of another by any of the following means is guilty of manslaughter in the second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than ten years or to payment of a fine of not more than $20,000, or both:
(1) by the person's culpable negligence whereby the person creates an unreasonable risk, and consciously takes chances of causing death or great bodily harm to another; or
There is still a causation element. But not the language about depraved mind, etc. Just negligence
Posted on 4/2/21 at 7:15 pm to dukke v
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Can you imagine what this site would be like during the OJ trial...
White women, even left wingers were really pissed when OJ walked because he had abused his wife physically for 17 years. Bet the shite out of her.
They now have Stockholm syndrome. They'll blame someone white if a black dude beats em.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 7:16 pm to Geekboy
Romper? Really? 
Posted on 4/2/21 at 7:21 pm to Centinel
Show me where they rioted after OJ was acquitted. Send me the links.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 7:50 pm to dragonNRG45
From my interpretation of what you quoted, that is Manslaughter in the 2nd degree, not murder.
ETA: my mistake, thought you were trying to make the case for 2nd degree murder. About 3 vodkas down after this shitshow of a week a work lol.
ETA: my mistake, thought you were trying to make the case for 2nd degree murder. About 3 vodkas down after this shitshow of a week a work lol.
This post was edited on 4/2/21 at 7:59 pm
Posted on 4/2/21 at 7:56 pm to Geekboy
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"For one thing, there was no rioting. I had feared that thousands of furious blonde, blue-eyed women and their brunette sympathizers would take their rage into the streets, burning, killing and looting."
Posted on 4/2/21 at 7:58 pm to Geekboy
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For all you “he was kneeling on his back” dumb asses, show me in the video where he’s kneeling on his back. Give me the time in the video.
LINK
Strange, this link shows the bystanders threatening the police.
Posted on 4/2/21 at 7:58 pm to ColoradoTiger1987
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Even you cannot think that this was premeditated.
sure. thats pretty silly to believe without drastic new info.
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Second-Degree Murder Second-degree murder is generally either: An unplanned, intentional killing (reacting in the heat of the moment when angry) A death caused by a reckless disregard for human life
the cops knew GF had no pulse for 2 minutes before attempting any type of life saving measure. This shows disregarded for the danger to GF's life. This was despite his colleagues regard for GF's life as they asked DC to alter his restraint. if DC had been reasonable and listened to his colleagues all this may have been avoided and GF would be alive in jail with no national riots etc.
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My question to you is that if he had been completely sober, would he have died then in the same situation? He would have not have had to even be on the ground IMHO.
well that is why he may only earn a manslaughter conviction instead of 2nd degree murder.
This post was edited on 4/2/21 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 4/2/21 at 8:00 pm to AMS
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the cops knew GF had no pulse for 2 minutes before stopping his restraint and attempting any type of life saving measure
So would your opinion change if cpr was given on ground with bystanders threatening the officers and GF still died?
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