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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today
Posted on 4/1/21 at 9:18 pm to Yellerhammer5
Posted on 4/1/21 at 9:18 pm to Yellerhammer5
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Unfortunately, it’s not as simple for me to prove my educational background on a public Internet forum as it is for you to prove yours.
You could have proved your credentials instead of resorting to the lowest common denominator. But you do you.
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Posted on 4/1/21 at 9:22 pm to AMS
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You think meth's 9 hour half life allows its effects wear off "like a light switch", despite the fact that GF still had plenty of meth onboard? gonna need some evidence or data to support that. Please, be specific.
Do you know when he took the meth and when he took the fentanyl?
Again explain to us the predictable behavior of someone on a speedball. You speak with such certainty about someone with such uncertainty going on in their body.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 9:25 pm to Jyrdis
An immediate downvote because someone doesn’t like my response and provides no rebuttal. That’s what we call a
Posted on 4/1/21 at 9:27 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Well street smack dosage is heavily regulated. How he ended up with enough Fentanyl to kill a thoroughbred is beyond the masses.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 9:29 pm to Jyrdis
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An immediate downvote because someone doesn’t like my response and provides no rebuttal. That’s what we call a
You’re probably in the wrong thread if you’re sensitive to downvotes.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 9:30 pm to Capt ST
Has there been enough discussion around "hoopin"?
I don't think the OT doctors are doing their analysis according to the hoop insertion method that GF himself said he had been doing.
I don't think the OT doctors are doing their analysis according to the hoop insertion method that GF himself said he had been doing.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 9:40 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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Do you know when he took the meth and when he took the fentanyl?
no but that doesnt matter because of both half lives being 8-10 hours. Given the fact he still had decent levels of both drugs in his system there is no timing that gives you the 'out like a light' scenario you created in your imagination.
If your stance is that meth wore off in under the hour the arrest then GF would absolutely looked like a traditional opioid overdose the entire time, nothing at all similar to shouting and fighting cops.
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You speak with such certainty about someone with such uncertainty going on in their body.
its not really uncertainty if you are familiar with half lives and physiologic effects of the drugs. it's only uncertainty if your argument consists of shite you made up like he would be 'out like a light'
This post was edited on 4/1/21 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 4/1/21 at 9:46 pm to AMS
You still haven’t answered the question. You are acting like people on a speedball have predictable behavior and health outcomes.
So what is supposed to happen to someone on fentanyl and meth? Is it predictable every time?
So what is supposed to happen to someone on fentanyl and meth? Is it predictable every time?
This post was edited on 4/1/21 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 4/1/21 at 9:52 pm to WaWaWeeWa
I'm watching today's events now and have been following this. One thing I don't understand is how there is a narrative that this was his community, but no one knew him. Cup foods kid never seen him, others didn't know him, but this dude was like the pillar of the community.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 9:56 pm to momentoftruth87
It's all theatre, Chauvin is walking.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 9:58 pm to biohzrd
Biohzrd LaBeef
Posted on 4/1/21 at 10:12 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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You still haven’t answered the question. You are acting like people on a speedball have predictable behavior and health outcomes.
apologies if I missed a question.
Behavior is variable. Neither of his drug levels were fatal range and your imaginary ‘out like a light scenario is not realistic.. I have seen no evidence proving lethal overdose symptoms or autopsy findings. All the medical examiners involved determined the subdual and restraint was Causal to Floyd’s demise. yes the drug intoxicants likely contributed, and may be why DC might avoid murder charges.
If you have any evidence at all other than a survivable amount of drugs present in his system, I welcome it. Not interested in another imaginative scenario
Posted on 4/1/21 at 10:18 pm to AMS
AMS,
This is why attorney Nelson asked all the prospective jurors at jury selection, "have you ever thought you were right about something and later learned you were wrong? How did you react" ?
You were fed a big lie about what you saw on amateur camera last May. People with any degree of common sense are starting to see they were all wrong about what they witnessed. Many are starting to admit they were wrong, and many won't ever admit it. In the very least, it's a FACT no one knows how much weight Chauvin actually had on Floyd's neck other than Chauvin. It's also a fact Floyd had what could have been a fatal amount of drugs in his system and other known health issues.
This is why attorney Nelson asked all the prospective jurors at jury selection, "have you ever thought you were right about something and later learned you were wrong? How did you react" ?
You were fed a big lie about what you saw on amateur camera last May. People with any degree of common sense are starting to see they were all wrong about what they witnessed. Many are starting to admit they were wrong, and many won't ever admit it. In the very least, it's a FACT no one knows how much weight Chauvin actually had on Floyd's neck other than Chauvin. It's also a fact Floyd had what could have been a fatal amount of drugs in his system and other known health issues.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 10:28 pm to carguymatt
Just in time for warm weather
Posted on 4/1/21 at 10:35 pm to AMS
quote:They've shown video and heard testimony that the officers clearly thought he was on something. When you're dealing with someone like that the officers do need to do what is necessary for their own and bystanders' safety. Unless there is a way to determine the amount of force being placed on his neck there will always by reasonable doubt in situations like this.
Behavior is variable. Neither of his drug levels were fatal range and your imaginary ‘out like a light scenario is not realistic.. I have seen no evidence proving lethal overdose symptoms or autopsy findings. All the medical examiners involved determined the subdual and restraint was Causal to Floyd’s demise. yes the drug intoxicants likely contributed, and may be why DC might avoid murder charges.
The fact that a method used to subdue a potentially dangerous man resulted in his death doesn't matter. That's like saying a cop should be charged with murder because he shot a guy who was waving an unmarked toy gun.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 10:55 pm to STLhog
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Has there been enough discussion around "hoopin
I think he said looping which belowis the urban dictionary meaning.
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When your on ecstasy and you get stuck in the same mental thought process over and over. You can be stuck moving to a beat and not able to get out of it or even stuck focusing on lights. This usually comes from your brain not being able to handle too much ecstasy or a combo of ecstasy and another drug. You have little or no control of your body movements or
But here is the Urban dictionary meaning for hoopin
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Putting crystal meth in your anus ( arse), either in solid form or dissolved in water, resulting in a quick and intense high...and ...
I'm going with he said hoopin
This post was edited on 4/1/21 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 4/1/21 at 10:58 pm to MSUDawg98
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The fact that a method used to subdue a potentially dangerous man resulted in his death doesn't matter.
There is 0 potential danger from a handcuffed and subdued Floyd who became unresponsive and pulseless. The restraint and force continued for 3 minutes after cops figured out he was pulseless.
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That's like saying a cop should be charged with murder because he shot a guy who was waving an unmarked toy gun.
It’s more like the cops shot someone who they already had taken the toy gun away from.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 11:07 pm to AMS
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There is 0 potential danger from a handcuffed and subdued Floyd who became unresponsive and pulseless.
How did he become unresponsive and pulseless?
TIA
Posted on 4/1/21 at 11:12 pm to dragonNRG45
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How did he become unresponsive and pulseless?
TIA
No problem, happy to help. There are 3 coroner reports you could refer to who determined it was a complication caused by the subdual and prolonged restraint. This is a known danger with the force used against Floyd. That’s not a legal argument it is just the facts of the situation
This post was edited on 4/1/21 at 11:13 pm
Posted on 4/1/21 at 11:14 pm to AMS
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There are 3 coroner reports you could refer to who determined it was a complication caused by the subdual and prolonged restraint.
Damn, the prosecution must be stupid! Should have paraded this around in opening argument.
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