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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today
Posted on 4/1/21 at 8:46 am to AMS
Posted on 4/1/21 at 8:46 am to AMS
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floyd already struggling means a shorter timeframe. the restraints used are dangerous and it is a well known risk when using them.
so are you saying all the drugs in his system had nothing to do with his death? it was 100% Chauvin?
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Posted on 4/1/21 at 8:46 am to Yellerhammer5
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It means the value detected would cause an ME, without any other competing causes of death, to call it an overdose due to fentanyl.
If Floyd was found at home with a gunshot wound and a fentanyl of 11 ng, then the cause of death would certainly not have been an overdose.
When people in this thread have quoted the ME’s comment about being found at home, they have been leaving off what he said at the end.
There's probably a lot of bias in that part of the report anyway listing cause of death as homicide. Hasn't the ME or someone for that office already said he made that determination after watching the bystander video? He called homicide based on emotion like many on twitter are still doing if you go #georgefloyd . They don't care about the facts. All they see is a white cop restraining a black man who's saying I can't breath and it's automatically a racist lynching. ME report is just a guy with a medical mind, overly emotional or wanting to appease the masses like any doctor, but low on actual "common sense". Nelson will snuff that out
Posted on 4/1/21 at 8:47 am to tgrbaitn08
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Key witness in George Floyd trial who was in the car with him refuses to testify: Morries Lester Hall had outstanding warrants for his arrest on felony possession of a firearm, felony domestic assault and felony drug possession. Daily Mail Online
Posted on 4/1/21 at 8:50 am to tgrbaitn08
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so are you saying all the drugs in his system had nothing to do with his death? it was 100% Chauvin?
they surely didnt help. but DC caused the death with restrictive and positional asphyxiation. all 3 medical examiners agree that happened. not super complicated
Posted on 4/1/21 at 8:51 am to AMS
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just dont care about whiny demanding posters.
No you don't like answering questions that would ruin your agenda with your answer. If you can't twist it you sidestep it.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 8:52 am to tgrbaitn08
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Now that the police cams are out one of the prosecutions top witnesses is refusing to testify and states he will only claim the 5th.
Thats HUGE
Posted on 4/1/21 at 8:53 am to AMS
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all 3 medical examiners agree that happened. not super complicated
Well they're wrong...GF caused his own death.....it's not super complicated.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 8:53 am to SOSFAN
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Key witness in George Floyd trial who was in the car with him refuses to testify: Morries Lester Hall had outstanding warrants for his arrest on felony possession of a firearm, felony domestic assault and felony drug possession. Daily Mail Online
He was the one saying yes sir, no sir.... This is big.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 8:54 am to AMS
[quote]the the fentanyl used are dangerous and it is a well known risk when using them.
Fixed it for you.
Fixed it for you.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 8:56 am to SOSFAN
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No you don't like answering questions that would ruin your agenda with your answer. If you can't twist it you sidestep it.
no twisting or sidestepping needed.
floyd could partially breath sporadically throughout. over time this was insufficient breath for survival due to the positional and restrictive asphyxiation caused by DC.
you avoided my question multiple times because it ruins your biased narrative. besides you conveniently forget the several minutes GF was no longer talking and unconscious.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 8:56 am to JDPndahizzy
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He was the one saying yes sir, no sir.... This is big.
He had his attorney send the prosecution a statement that he will only plead the 5th if called.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 8:57 am to tgrbaitn08
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Well they're wrong...GF caused his own death
I mean what facts do you have they didn't? seems you are basing your argument off of emotion and narrative.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 8:57 am to AMS
what about the preliminary report that said there was
"no physical findings" to "support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation".
"no physical findings" to "support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation".
Posted on 4/1/21 at 8:58 am to AMS
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less than positional and restrictive asphyxiation in the case of GF.
Wrong
Posted on 4/1/21 at 8:58 am to AMS
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I mean what facts do you have they didn't? seems you are basing your argument off of emotion and narrative.
the fact that he was breathing when he was screaming that he couldnt breath
Posted on 4/1/21 at 8:59 am to SOSFAN
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He had his attorney send the prosecution a statement that he will only plead the 5th if called.
Wonder why...what is he hiding?
Posted on 4/1/21 at 9:00 am to tgrbaitn08
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the fact that he was breathing when he was screaming that he couldnt breath
what about the several minutes he wasnt talking or screaming.
its like believing its impossible to drown at the pool because 8 minutes before you drowned you were fine.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 9:01 am to LSU alum wannabe
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The debate is whether it’s murder. Convince a jury he ODd he’s not guilty. Convince a jury he knelt on his arteries, you get guilty.
That's actually not the legal standard. The prosecution has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Chauvin:
-Caused the death of another;
-by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to other;
-evincing a depraved mind;
-without regard fir human life.
If they can only prove 3/4 of those elements, they did not prove enough to convict him. So even if the jury believes Chauvin caused his death, if they find that it wasn't eminently dangerous and simply an accident, the prosecution didn't do it's job. Now they have lesser charges, but that's the 3rd Degree murder statute.
Thanks for coming to my 1L crim law lecture.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 9:01 am to AMS
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what about the several minutes he wasnt talking or screaming.
Drugs are bad...they often result in overdoses which causes death
Dont do drugs kids
Posted on 4/1/21 at 9:01 am to AMS
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you avoided my question multiple times because it ruins your biased narrative. besides you conveniently forget the several minutes GF was no longer talking and unconscious.
You are such a disingenuous pos. You only asked that question to sidestep my question you moron. The only bias in here with an agenda is your lying dumbass self.
Just like a liberal bitch ignores reality then twist any answer they have to give.
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