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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today

Posted on 4/1/21 at 7:17 am to
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 7:17 am to
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You got me, I put an m instead of an n. Silly me for having butterfingers, but your dumb arse didn’t have to explain shite to anybody. You’re still having problems understanding the facts of this case without bleeding from your wherever.




No your ignorance didn’t end there. Aside from not understanding your units, You applied the wrong units with the wrong concepts. You didn’t fat finger shite. even if you did, it still means you didnt understand lethal dose vs drug concentration.
Posted by BayouCatFan
Member since Jul 2008
4580 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 7:36 am to
Its only a matter of time before the juries names and addresses get released. The left is going to make sure he is convicted by mob rule and intimidation.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56551 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 7:38 am to
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so you've been dug into your narrative for close to a year?


AMS will not evolve relative to what happened (cause of death) as new evidence is provided.

He/her pride is obvious...

It's as bad as angry black people still believing "hands up don't shoot"

Happened... literally ignoring evidence Mike Brown attacked the officer while sitting inside his police SUV.
This post was edited on 4/1/21 at 7:43 am
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 7:42 am to
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ApexTiger


she/her believes ther is new evidence GF did not die from asphyxia in a homicide? that would be a new development, please link it. unless she/her knows something info the rest of the public doesn't.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
102122 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 7:44 am to
Are the other 2 paid examinations being submitted as evidence ?
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24241 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 7:46 am to
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Fentanyl used for "anesthesia". While incubated on mechanical ventilation, cardiac monitoring and an anesthesiologist monitoring with drugs to counteract any complications. Not comparable to a person on the street

They also don't use psycho stimulants such as methamphetamine in clinical anesthesia either, but AMS will just repeat that they use fentanyl in anesthesia. And then say something about the 3 medical examiners while completely disregarding how different a junkie speedballing is from anesthesia being used in a clinical setting.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 7:47 am to
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Are the other 2 paid examinations being submitted as evidence ?



even if they aren't how do you reconcile the 3rd one agreed with the other two?
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56551 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 7:47 am to
AMS...keep calling it homicide all you want...

The police videos show the knee had nothing to do with GF death...

The original viral video had me convinced it was the knee...

But this case is all about " one side seems right until the other speaks"

A lesson for all of us...perspective is everything...but you must see all perspectives before forming an opinion
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 7:49 am to
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t the 3 medical examiners while completely disregarding how different a junkie speedballing is from anesthesia being used in a clinical setting.


all 3 ME considered the drug levels. Its just not as important as you want to believe in this case. They still came to the conclusion a homicide occurred. Thats tough for you to reconcile.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 7:51 am to
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The police videos show the knee had nothing to do with GF death...



you can asphyxiate if someone compresses your chest with a knee on your back. despite what you believe., all of breathing doesnt occur entirely in the neck
This post was edited on 4/1/21 at 7:52 am
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23008 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 7:53 am to
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all 3 ME considered the drug levels. Its just not as important as you want to believe in this case. They still came to the conclusion a homicide occurred. Thats tough for you to reconcile.


I think the question is going to be, and what the defense will try to prove, is that without the drugs in his system that Floyd wouldn't have died. That Chauvin followed his training and had no reason to believe that Floyd actually couldn't breathe, considering he started saying it before even being put on the ground, and that the drugs in his system combined with the restraint technique is what killed him. Is that Murder 3? Absolutely not. Manslaughter 2? Maybe, but I don't think so.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15843 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 7:54 am to
Only a biased moron thinks Chauvin is still guilty after the police cams were released.

Now a top witness has refused to testify for the prosecution.

quote:

Key witness in George Floyd trial who was in the car with him refuses to testify: Morries Lester Hall had outstanding warrants for his arrest on felony possession of a firearm, felony domestic assault and felony drug possession. Daily Mail Online
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
11016 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 7:54 am to
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AMS...keep calling it homicide all you want...


All the forensic pathologists involved in the case called it a homicide and they’ve seen all the footage that you saw and possibly some that you haven’t.

But it seems that you’re confusing homicide with criminal culpability.
This post was edited on 4/1/21 at 7:55 am
Posted by The Melt
Metairie
Member since Apr 2018
984 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 7:57 am to
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you can asphyxiate if someone compresses your chest with a knee on your back. despite what you believe., all of breathing doesnt occur entirely in the neck


Link? Maybe it's happened before but thousands of arrests have happened over history with a knee or weight on the upper back or neck. How many deaths occurred because of this? Shouldn't it be a large number if it is such an issue and so easy to do?
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15843 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 7:59 am to
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pathologist is a physician who studies body fluids and tissues


They wouldn't be watching a film to make a diagnosis.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
11016 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 8:03 am to
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They wouldn't be watching a film to make a diagnosis.


How do you know that?

The ME didn’t watch footage prior to the autopsy, but he certainly did before making his determination.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15843 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 8:03 am to
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Link? Maybe it's happened before but thousands of arrests 


AMS is obviously a troll. First thing in CPR training is to ask a choking person if they can talk. If they can talk then their airway is not restricted and they can breathe. Floyd talked nonstop for 10 minutes while saying he couldn't breathe so common sense tells you Floyd was lying. He was having a panic attack and dying of drugs. The Coroner even wrote that had Floyd been found at home it would have been listed as a overdose.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15843 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 8:07 am to
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How do you know that? 


Read the description again that I posted.

I like how you've already moved the goalpost lol.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
11016 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 8:11 am to
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Read the description again that I posted.


Your proof is the vague definition of a pathologist? Are you twelve?

I know he didn’t view video prior to the autopsy because his comment is documented by a detective. This is often the case as it takes some time to acquire the footage and the autopsy is typically performed the next morning.

Let me ask you this: do you think medical examiners read scene reports?

Do you think they look at scene photos?

Do you think they sometimes go to crime scenes?

Do you think they review video of deaths?

I’m curious to see where you think they draw the line.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 8:18 am to
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POSITIONAL OR RESTRAINT ASPHYXIA
This term relates to any restraint position that compromises either the subject’s airways or expansion of their lungs
leading to their breathing being impaired resulting in asphyxiation. Typical positions that can lead to this include any
restraint causing:
? restriction of the chest wall
? impairment of the diaphragm (which may be caused by the abdomen being compressed in a prone, seated or
kneeling position)
? pressure to the area of the neck
During a violent struggle, the subject may use their arms to brace themselves in order to improve the quality and depth
of their breathing. Any restriction of this ‘bracing’ during the restraint may also disable effective breathing in an
aroused physiological state.



you could google chest wall restriction and asphyxiation and find plenty of data. it is well known to be a danger in the type of restraint used. regardless of how much it happened in the past, it apparently occurred in this case as determined by 3 separate medical examiners.
This post was edited on 4/1/21 at 8:20 am
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