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re: Defeat the Nurse Practitioner scope of practice expansion - Louisiana SB 187

Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:54 pm to
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:54 pm to
Louisiana patients need an advocate - or 2 or 3
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:55 pm to
Holy cow. No way
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:56 pm to
Some just do glasses
Posted by Da Hammer
Folsom
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:56 pm to
What do you mean no way?
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:57 pm to
A lot don't even treat disease
Posted by Da Hammer
Folsom
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:58 pm to
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Some just do glasses




Of course no on requires them to do surgical procedures. If an Optometrist were to Perdue surgical procedures they would have to take additional courses and pass a written examination. Many don't want to however many do.
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:58 pm to
Who teaches evolving edge scope optometry if the people who taught them had a narrower scope?
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:59 pm to
The public usually goes about their business. Where do you think you will hear about this? Fox News?

How would patients with negative outcomes have a voice? I've seen optometrists patch the wrong eye for amblyopia and blind a kid. Why are they treating amblyopia? Sure, now that one patient knows not to let an optometrist treat amblyopia, but where else would they go with that information?

The problem with having a little information is you think you are way more capable then you are

It's not just about negative outcomes. It's about unneccesaary waste. Optoms ordering optos imaging, OCTs, visual fields, even IVFAs on all kinds of people. Because they followed a retina specialist around for 4 weeks makes them qualified to interpret IVFAs? They can't even act on that information.

It's all waste. And it's all about profit for optoms
This post was edited on 5/25/16 at 12:00 am
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:59 pm to
One test to be a surgeon?

We take like 45
Posted by Da Hammer
Folsom
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:59 pm to
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A lot don't even treat disease




You are gravely mistaken on this. You can't get a license in Louisiana without holding a license to treat disease anymore.
Posted by greenhead11
Member since Feb 2012
955 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:59 pm to
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Post #2000 gets an NP white coat


This.
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:01 am to
And on that note, how would you know of opposition to this bill if it weren't for the OT and all you wonderful people
Posted by Da Hammer
Folsom
Member since May 2008
5996 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:01 am to
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Who teaches evolving edge scope optometry if the people who taught them had a narrower scope?




MDs actually along with some ODs. Remember Oklahoma has been doing this for 30 years.
Posted by PJ250R
The Rock
Member since Sep 2006
2089 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:01 am to
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Post # 2000 gets an NP white coat

This did make me lol, however I couldn't care less if they wore a white coat and called themselves doctor each morning in the mirror and patients for that matter. The Nps put on their white coat at the hospital and take it off when a pt threatens to sue. Listen-NPs are amazing at what they do bc of what they learned after graduation not during their schooling. It's a nursing degree. It's incredibly arrogant to think that eta: you can graduate and practice medicine, while medical school (which requirements of entry and completion have been explained many times) STILL require at least a three year apprenticeship, aka residency, to be a board certified physician. Some argue that it should be more. I agree that doctors have done this to themselves and hopefully this is a wakeup call. However, there is no argument for how this will save money for the patient only for the NP to take more of what the physician trained them on. If this passes it will really handicap the training of future of NPs. In Connecticut I see NPs come out of school deer in headlights and they are making decisions for patients. Scary as shite and hard for me to sleep. Reform how physicians oversee their NPs, do not let a nurse call an MI reflux.
This post was edited on 5/25/16 at 12:27 am
Posted by Da Hammer
Folsom
Member since May 2008
5996 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:03 am to
quote:

It's not just about negative outcomes. It's about unneccesaary waste. Optoms ordering optos imaging, OCTs, visual fields, even IVFAs on all kinds of people. Because they followed a retina specialist around for 4 weeks makes them qualified to interpret IVFAs? They can't even act on that information.




This just in most of this ODs have been doing for over 30 years in Louisiana.

I will never say any profession is perfect but show me that Ophthalmologists are?
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:04 am to
IVFA?!?!?!??!?!?!?!
Posted by Da Hammer
Folsom
Member since May 2008
5996 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:05 am to
I am in Baton Rouge fairly regularly so would still be pretty up to date minus some bull.
Posted by Da Hammer
Folsom
Member since May 2008
5996 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:06 am to
No but give me a break fundus photos, visual field, OCT. That has been within scope of practice for quite some time.

To say it hasn't would be very misinformed.
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:07 am to
?
Disagree
Posted by Da Hammer
Folsom
Member since May 2008
5996 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:08 am to
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