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re: Dec 16th began the Battle of the Bulge.

Posted on 12/16/20 at 1:16 pm to
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/16/20 at 1:16 pm to
The only two things the Germans had going for them was the element of surprise and the weather which prevented Allied air superiority from taking hold immediately. The element of surprise wasn't 100% on their side, however, because Patton was listening to his intelligence guys and believed a German counteroffensive imminent. Which is why he was ready to disengage from the battle he was presently waging and shift his forces north to slam into the flank of the German attack.

Posted by Sticky37
Member since Jun 2016
508 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 1:24 pm to
The father of a long time family friend was at the Battle of the bulge. I was too young and dumb to really get a chance to talk to him much about it but I do remember that he was missing the upper parts of both ears. He told me he lost them to frostbite.

Posted by ntrcptr
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
634 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 1:56 pm to
My Grandfather was a Medic in the 101st

--The real guy from Episode 6, Doc Roe.
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
Member since Mar 2016
11731 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 2:00 pm to
You got a random French nonc/tante that you don't know about?
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
7014 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

It is on the web. 

Go here for memoirs 


Great read..your grandfather mentions the 84th infantry a few times.. Ironically they were the focus of my WWII Christmas day letter thread.

He also mentions he was "short range" artillery. I wonder what gun he operated?
This post was edited on 12/16/20 at 2:29 pm
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
20421 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 2:06 pm to
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Go here for memoirs


Posted by ntrcptr
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
634 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 2:46 pm to
Nah, Man, not that I'm aware of....

It was pretty cool to see some of the trophies they took home from The Eagles Nest

Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
16962 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 2:47 pm to
My grandfather was supposedly there too... apparently wouldn’t say much, but story is he was 1 out of 2 to make it back from his company and had long term frostbite pain to feet. Died at 49 from alcoholism I believe, my mom found him
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95943 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 2:53 pm to
I never got an answer about that before he died.

I have his medals on my wall, though, and he apparently got decorated during his service. In addition to normal stuff like his tech sergeant stripes, I believe he had a Bronze Star.
Posted by UPT
NOLA
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 12/16/20 at 3:13 pm to
A very dear friend who is no longer with us, received a silver star, two bronze stars, and a three Purple Hearts during Battle of the Bulge.

Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired
Member since Feb 2019
4622 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 3:26 pm to
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I never got an answer about that before he died.

I have his medals on my wall, though, and he apparently got decorated during his service. In addition to normal stuff like his tech sergeant stripes, I believe he had a Bronze Star.



Interesting. The Army renamed some ranks when the USAF came online. Tech became SFC in the Army, but was carried on as TSGT in the USAF.
Posted by mattfromnj
New Jersey
Member since Mar 2020
571 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

The only two things the Germans had going for them was the element of surprise and the weather which prevented Allied air superiority from taking hold immediately. The element of surprise wasn't 100% on their side, however, because Patton was listening to his intelligence guys and believed a German counteroffensive imminent. Which is why he was ready to disengage from the battle he was presently waging and shift his forces north to slam into the flank of the German attack.


The weather ended up doing them more harm than good too as they got bogged down in the snow and mud, advancing and retreating. That area is really rural even today so they all had to clog the few roads that could handle that type of vehicle traffic, and it made them easy targets once the tide had turned against them.
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired
Member since Feb 2019
4622 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 3:27 pm to
The Museum in Bastogne is one of the best I've ever been to.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19309 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 3:29 pm to
An uncle was there, not a big talker about it later in life,but one day I accompanied my cousin & he to a military funeral of a friend who served with him. Later,, in the car ride back home out of the blue he said " the worst thing was when the Krauts adjusted their cannon shells to explode on the tree tops, not on the ground below. We were shredded like helpless pigs for the slaughter". Never said another word. Later my cousin told me that one of the 2 purple hearts his dad was awarded was when a large ragged tree limb pierced his boot & pinned his foot to the ground. Unc limped for the rest of his life.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95943 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 4:06 pm to
Another interesting note we got out of him at one point as he got older.

Before he got drafted, he was working in a factory in the state where he ended up assembling what became the duck boats for the Normandy invasion.

My mom pointed out later that he had all his medals up and did all his American Legion conventions for what he did in uniform and the single most significant thing he may have done got completely overlooked, even by himself, given how important those boats were to the invasion.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 12/16/20 at 4:14 pm to
Posted by lachellie
LALA Land
Member since Aug 2012
1013 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 7:45 pm to
My uncle, mom’s brother, was there, shot in the abdomen, transported to field hospital for surgery and survived. Her other brother was on a torpedo boat in the Pacific at the same time. She was only six months old, the youngest of eight kids.

He never liked to talk about it but there’s a kind of funny story. Thirty some years later, his psycho drug head neighbor, began threatening and cursing him as he drove past on his way home. This goes on for awhile and finally my uncle had enough and got his rifle and said he was going to kill him. The sheriff’s office was called and showed up. Meanwhile his son walked up on the porch steps to take the gun from his dads and my uncle did some combat maneuvers with the rifle and my cousin found himself flat on his back in the yard. Finally my mom and aunt showed up and managed to talk him down, SO didn’t arrest him. Psycho neighbor left him alone after that.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28090 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:43 pm to
"Burn it, Burn it All"
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
3707 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:01 pm to
This nice old man I knew was in Infantry in WW2 in Europe.Right after I finished reading about the Battle of the Bulge I mentioned to him that I had read about how awful it was.He told me “I was in it””Then he started shivering violently and and clutched his arms across his chest like a self-hug.He said I don’t remember much about it except I’ve never been so cold,I’ve been cold ever since”.He continued to shiver for a few minutes.I felt bad about bringing it up.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76387 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:02 pm to
This is nothing compared to the harsh conditions and Savage fighting endured by antifa fighting the Nazis every night in Seattle
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