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Death With Dignity
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:15 pm
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:15 pm
Im curious about people who oppose death with dignity where it would be allowed for people of sound mind, etc. Why cant a person decide that they don't want to fight to the very end and instead opt to go out in peace when they see fit. Instead of spending all that money in the final months (almost seems like this benefits the medical lobby and not individuals), they can pass it on to their loved ones.
The fight against death is a losing battle - in history and in literature/storytelling we celebrate people who choose their final stand on their own ground - people should be allowed to make that same decision.
I seems like fthe extreme fear of death and aversion to discussing our own fatality that is the cause of the aversion to death with dignity. It seems odd that we are expected to fight to the bitter end against the inevitable. This fight is likely for the benefit of our family and loved ones - and i question whether it is even a benefit.
Im sitting up with my dog hoping to get him in to be put down tomorrow and it has me thinking on why i wouldn't be allowed to make this decision for myself.
The fight against death is a losing battle - in history and in literature/storytelling we celebrate people who choose their final stand on their own ground - people should be allowed to make that same decision.
I seems like fthe extreme fear of death and aversion to discussing our own fatality that is the cause of the aversion to death with dignity. It seems odd that we are expected to fight to the bitter end against the inevitable. This fight is likely for the benefit of our family and loved ones - and i question whether it is even a benefit.
Im sitting up with my dog hoping to get him in to be put down tomorrow and it has me thinking on why i wouldn't be allowed to make this decision for myself.
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Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:16 pm to Sneaky__Sally
My 3rd great aunt was given a 99.999% chance of death at age 75 but lived for another 20 years so I’m against it
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:17 pm to Sneaky__Sally
You can choose NOT to take extreme measures to keep yourself alive.
ie: Chemo
However, suicide is another story
ie: Chemo
However, suicide is another story
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:19 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
But shouldnt she have been allowed to make that decision herself - again with mental capacity to make that decision a given.?
The law of large numbers says that the vast majority of people in the same situation suffered for a while before succumbing to the inevitable- which is their choice. i just think they should have that choice
The law of large numbers says that the vast majority of people in the same situation suffered for a while before succumbing to the inevitable- which is their choice. i just think they should have that choice
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:21 pm to lsusteve1
Choosing not to take extreme measures means my dog would likely be alive for another week in pain and misery so I am taking him to end it early. Is there a reason i shouldnt be able to make that same choice for myself?
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:26 pm to Sneaky__Sally
I think human consciousness, is a tragic misstep in evolution. We became too self-aware, nature created an aspect of nature separate from itself, we are creatures that should not exist by natural law. We are things that labor under the illusion of having a self; an accretion of sensory, experience and feeling, programmed with total assurance that we are each somebody, when in fact everybody is nobody. Maybe the honorable thing for our species to do is deny our programming, stop reproducing, walk hand in hand into extinction, one last midnight - brothers and sisters opting out of a raw deal."
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:27 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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. Is there a reason i shouldnt be able to make that same choice for myself?
From a legal standpoint, yes. From a moral, not really. Depending on your deity.
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:27 pm to Sneaky__Sally
No one dies with dignity unfortunately.
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:29 pm to Martini
Dignity as a relative term in this case - really it means is it necessary to suffer the indignity of the final period of a really tough illness
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:32 pm to Sneaky__Sally
Who says indignity is inherent in suffering?
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:35 pm to Sneaky__Sally
I'm with you man. It seems like a natural right to me.
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:37 pm to JumpingTheShark
That is valid but not really the point death with dignity / death without suffering can be used interchangeably as meaning the same thing. Death with dignity is just the common wording Death without suffering is the more applicable phrase.
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:38 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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Choosing not to take extreme measures means my dog would likely be alive for another week in pain and misery so I am taking him to end it early. Is there a reason i shouldnt be able to make that same choice for myself?
I don't think you understood my response.
And choosing to take an animal out of misery is totally different than a human.
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:42 pm to lsusteve1
I didnt think you were saying i shouldnt be putting him down - i just am curious why you think a human shouldnt make that choice?
I understand that there are some religous reasons but just wondering about peoples reasoning. I enjoy these conversations so am not offended.
I understand that there are some religous reasons but just wondering about peoples reasoning. I enjoy these conversations so am not offended.
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:42 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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Why cant a person decide that they don't want to fight to the very end and instead opt to go out in peace when they see fit
They can. The legal question is should a third-party be allowed to assist in the act without having to face criminal punishment? And if they can, how do you prevent interested third-parties from manipulating the situation either via undue influence or outright murder?
This post was edited on 11/24/20 at 8:43 pm
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:43 pm to Sneaky__Sally
quote:
Death With Dignity
Such a stupid label.
I've seen many suffer and have great dignity. I support taking yourself out if you choose, but the title is misleading and dumb.
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:45 pm to Sneaky__Sally
Today I fricked Up for telling my dad it's time to Euthanize him.
Pretty funny story via r/TIFU
TLDR: While being sleepdrunk I woke up my dad and told him we get to do his Euthanasia later this morning. He took it a bit too literal.
Pretty funny story via r/TIFU
TLDR: While being sleepdrunk I woke up my dad and told him we get to do his Euthanasia later this morning. He took it a bit too literal.
This post was edited on 11/24/20 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:45 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I agree its just the phrasing ive heard before. Its not something im well versed in.
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:47 pm to SCLibertarian
quote:
They can. The legal question is should a third-party be allowed to assist in the act without having to face criminal punishment? And if they can, how do you prevent interested third-parties from manipulating the situation either via undue influence or outright murder
Is this in particular states? I read about a sort of "death pod" people could use somewhere in Europe but i didnt think the US allowed anything of the sort
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:47 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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why i wouldn't be allowed to make this decision for myself.
because the government wants to control you until the end.....and beyond
Their would have to be a waiting period with permits and licenses.
This post was edited on 11/24/20 at 8:50 pm
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