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re: Death stats comparison to Opiods

Posted on 8/11/17 at 12:57 pm to
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
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Posted on 8/11/17 at 12:57 pm to
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Well more people use alcohol than opiods so yes, alcohol deaths will be higher

Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 8/11/17 at 12:59 pm to
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Now look at the numbers of deaths per number of users.


This! Which the OP left out. It looks like at its highest rate, Opiod dependency is around 1.2% of the population. At the lowest its somewhere around 0.3% of the population in a state.

How many people use Opiods are not dependent? Not a lot.

Compared to how many people use alcohol? 60% or more?
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 8/11/17 at 1:03 pm to
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Good thing we are legalizing the gateway drug marijuana


And coffee will lead you to Crystal meth...
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 1:05 pm to
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I'm not saying that we don't have an issue with opioids, we most certainly do, but why is this issue in the forefront?

Because everyone knows drinking alcohol is cool. Just watch any movie or TV series. All the cool people drink. Just like all the cool people smoked 50 years ago.
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 8/11/17 at 1:10 pm to
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And coffee will lead you to Crystal meth...
that's a bit of a stretch.

Over time your weed dealer will probably offer you more hardcore drugs. next thing you know you're drinking NyQuil behind a RiteAid and snorting some meth.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 8/11/17 at 1:15 pm to
You've never smoked weed it appears
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 1:18 pm to
Twas sarcasm, no one looks at marijuana as they did in the 1930s-1980s anymore.

Facts and an education on it have helped.

A "gateway" is something that is socially acceptable, easily accessible, something that can kill you..but when you see it doesn't..you have tested the waters and can go in deeper.

That's not marijuana, that's alcohol and cigarettes.
This post was edited on 8/11/17 at 1:20 pm
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 8/11/17 at 1:19 pm to
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but why is this issue in the forefront?


Because, it's skyrocketing and is the number one drug for OD's....





Posted by JetsetNuggs
Member since Jun 2014
15614 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 1:19 pm to
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Over time your weed dealer will probably offer you more hardcore drugs. next thing you know you're drinking NyQuil behind a RiteAid and snorting some meth


You should quit while you're behind.

ETA: the dudes that used to sell to me were people I knew since 2nd grade. I think I'm good.
This post was edited on 8/11/17 at 1:26 pm
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 8/11/17 at 1:20 pm to
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88,000 / idk 100M drinkers
32,000 / idk 1M opioid abusers?

It's about the ratio not the total




I believe the alcohol number also includes lifetime abuse where most of the opioid deaths are a result of a single use to cause death.

the number has almost tripled in ten years as well
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 8/11/17 at 1:27 pm to
know how I know you're a pill head?
Posted by Large Farva
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
8749 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 1:38 pm to
He's either a pill head, an old man or lives an extremely sheltered life. frick pain pills and frick benzos. Lost way too many friends over both of those.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/11/17 at 1:44 pm to
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but why is this issue in the forefront?


Because of the sharp increase in the number of deaths. All the other causes you listed have been relatively static. Opiod deaths have skyrocketed and are still climbing.

Compare your death totals to the same categories ten years ago.

ETA - MardiGras Texan beat me to the correct answer, and provided bar graphs, too.
This post was edited on 8/11/17 at 1:50 pm
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/11/17 at 1:47 pm to
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"They shouldn't have done heroin", but that is akin to saying "They shouldn't have been driving".



Did you think about this statement before you typed it?
Posted by Big Block Stingray
Top down on open road
Member since Feb 2009
2096 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 2:05 pm to
I can definitely say DEA is getting aggressive with opioid cases in particular fentanyl. I had a meeting this morning with 2 DEA special agents.
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