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re: Dayton, OH bar mass shooting - 10 dead, 27 wounded
Posted on 8/4/19 at 8:18 am to The Pirate King
Posted on 8/4/19 at 8:18 am to The Pirate King
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If we’re taking drastic measures to prevent more shootings, taking down social media would be a great place to start.
Social media, including the free for all message boards where this inciteful hate speech is allowed to go unchecked? I look at the political board on this site for instance. I think the admins of this site and others have a moral obligation to start taking down messages that perpetuate hate and conspiracies.
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Posted on 8/4/19 at 8:20 am to Sayre
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the most moral?
According to whom? Sexual assault is pretty rampant there.
Morality is subjective.
Take care of yourself, don't harm others. That's all you need.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 8:21 am to TDsngumbo
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Anyone have a pic or name of this mother fricker? Does he look like the Garlic fest and El Paso shooters as well?
No but he was wearing black and was wearing ear muffs exactly like ElPaso guy. Again mult people said mult shooters but if ends up being one. I’m curious to see if Dayton guy has any ties to the psych institution that the dad of elpaso shooter ran. (1 of the 2 that got shut down for major issues).
These are obviously tied together And FF to drive a crazy narrative for anti gun and to make people think there’s a bunch or crazy trump lovin’ white supremacists ready to mow everyone down.
Not coincidence that antifa was calling for attack’s on elpaso and around the country either. Let’s hope Walmart cameras don’t get confiscated and locked up next to Hillary’s emails and next to Las Vegas security camera files.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 8:21 am to The Pirate King
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Officers neutralized the shooter in less than a minute.
And he still managed to shoot 36 ppl??! How the hell...
Posted on 8/4/19 at 8:22 am to GeauxBall
Well, glad you've figured all this out six hours into the investigation
Posted on 8/4/19 at 8:22 am to PhilipMarlowe
quote:couldn’t
Nah. If sandy hook couldn’t change the status quo, I can’t imagine anything will.
Interesting choice of words.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 8:24 am to GeauxBall
Wait, this fricker was wearing ear muffs too?
Do these crazy fricks all follow the same instruction manual or something?
Do these crazy fricks all follow the same instruction manual or something?
Posted on 8/4/19 at 8:24 am to Who_Dat_Tiger
Yea, these guys got some high numbers. It has been a question at the back of my mind
Posted on 8/4/19 at 8:26 am to northshorebamaman
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frick these guys for the horror they're responsible for and frick them again for what's about to happen to decent law abiding American gun owners because of them.
Many won’t be law abiding anymore, and these shootings will probably seem like the good old days, unfortunately.
This post was edited on 8/4/19 at 8:27 am
Posted on 8/4/19 at 8:26 am to Who_Dat_Tiger
This is so frustrating... gun ownership used to be much higher in this country and guns were part of the culture and were everywhere from westerns to kid shows and yet this never occurred. What changed? The media and dems will only come after 2nd amendment and will completely ignore root problems as to why this is happening.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 8:27 am to CoeJ
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Because people shouldn't need to fear a pretend authority to "do unto others" with kindness and respect and if you need that to treat others with respect maybe it's more a you problem.
You're not answering why we should treat each other better.
This post was edited on 8/4/19 at 8:30 am
Posted on 8/4/19 at 8:27 am to Number2
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Social media, including the free for all message boards where this inciteful hate speech is allowed to go unchecked? I look at the political board on this site for instance. I think the admins of this site and others have a moral obligation to start taking down messages that perpetuate hate and conspiracies.
You can’t pick and choose free speech. Slippery slope. Either we have free speech, or we don’t.
If you really want to prevent mass shootings, revamp the mental health system and provide real security for soft targets. Any place in which large crowds gather, is a soft target. Parades, festivals, schools, atetic events are all soft targets. Know why no one starts a gun fight at a football game? Because it’s crawling with police. As for mental health, it’s truly heart breaking that we can’t provide better care.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 8:28 am to Carville
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Why does it bother you so much that people believe in God?
Militant atheists and vegans are the Jehovah's Witnesses of this century.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 8:29 am to DeafJam73
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You can’t pick and choose free speech
WRONG
Inciting a crowd with hate speech is illegal speech.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 8:30 am to Number2
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Inciting a crowd with hate speech is illegal speech
No it's not. This shite happens everywhere every single day and no one is arrested for it.
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I think the admins of this site and others have a moral obligation to start taking down messages that perpetuate hate and conspiracies.
This post was edited on 8/4/19 at 8:32 am
Posted on 8/4/19 at 8:30 am to Number2
quote:You’re missing some important words in that sentence.
Inciting a crowd with hate speech is illegal speech.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 8:32 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The fighting words doctrine, in United States constitutional law, is a limitation to freedom of speech as protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.
In 1942, the U.S. Supreme Court established the doctrine by a 9–0 decision in Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire.[3] It held that "insulting or 'fighting words', those that by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace" are among the "well-defined and narrowly limited classes of speech the prevention and punishment of [which] … have never been thought to raise any constitutional problem."
Posted on 8/4/19 at 8:32 am to Number2
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Inciting a crowd with hate speech is illegal speech.
Unless explicitly calling for directed violence and having that violence come into fruition, being an a-hole is still protected. Words are subjective. Period.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 8:33 am to Number2
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Inciting a crowd with hate speech is illegal speech.
Does this include 24/7 media calling the President or anyone else that disagrees with them Racist non stop?
Posted on 8/4/19 at 8:33 am to DeafJam73
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As for mental health, it’s truly heart breaking that we can’t provide better care.
There’s still a stigma about it, until everyone acknowledges it, nothing sweeping can be done
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