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re: Dayton, OH bar mass shooting - 10 dead, 27 wounded

Posted on 8/4/19 at 3:05 pm to
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/4/19 at 3:05 pm to
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The NRA hardly lobbies at all. So this is just a lie.


A quick Google of their 2016 tax filings wholeheartedly disagrees. They’ve donated a ton of money to campaigns to keep pro-NRA folks in office. They literally have their own PAC. They spent $412 million alone in 2016 for political activities. And they have a whole branch that is for lobbying alone.

Whether you agree with them or not, you really can’t deny that they lobby regularly.
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
Member since Nov 2010
10070 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 3:06 pm to
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The NRA hardly lobbies at all. So this is just a lie.


fricking LOL
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4766 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 3:09 pm to
More guns than people, highest rate of gun violence in the Western world, one of the highest rates of gun violence in the world....it’s clearly not the guns that are the issue!!!
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73257 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 3:10 pm to
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Flame away. I don’t give two shits. Won’t be returning to this thread after the fact. I know the sort that will respond to this and the erections they’ll sport.


because you’re a bitch
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
40689 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 3:11 pm to
The NRA is awful. They don’t do enough to protect the 2nd Amendment and in fact have many people in the higher ups that would gladly ban certain firearms. They are only about one thing...money.

Gun Owners of America is much much better
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73257 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 3:12 pm to
Hypothetical: Rape counts are on the rise....who’s to blame? Porn? Over sexualized society? Scantily dressed women? Pick one, we’ll ban it
Posted by LaBR4
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
53480 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 3:13 pm to
Presser on Fox

Dude killed his Sister and her boyfriend in the attack
This post was edited on 8/4/19 at 3:21 pm
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 3:16 pm to
That’s why it’s hilarious that anti-gun demonize the NRA.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
33542 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 3:19 pm to
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Damn. With your attitude you have to wonder how the United States ever broke off from England. It's almost as if a bunch of people were tired of their liberties being stripped from them and decided to do something about it.



Oh look, someone who never read a book beyond middle school social studies
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34400 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 3:19 pm to
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Dude killed his Sister in the attack
That has been out for several hours now.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 3:19 pm to
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.it’s clearly not the guns that are the issue!!!



Correct, it's people.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161245 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 3:19 pm to
Gilroy guy hated white hipsters but was a white nationalist, these two apparently are all well but one killed his family?

What all 3 have in common is they all have some sort of mental illness that makes them think this was ok.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
25962 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 3:25 pm to
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A quick Google of their 2016 tax filings wholeheartedly disagrees. They’ve donated a ton of money to campaigns to keep pro-NRA folks in office. They literally have their own PAC. They spent $412 million alone in 2016 for political activities. And they have a whole branch that is for lobbying alone.

Whether you agree with them or not, you really can’t deny that they lobby regularly.


And that's the money you know about, but hey dont suggest that the NRA is in the back pockets of several politicians, facts like that dont fly around these parts.
Posted by BoyHowdy
Member since Aug 2019
312 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 3:27 pm to
So shooter, sister, and male companion went downtown together, seperated at some point, shooter gets gun, comes back and kills sister, wounds male companion then kills others and is shot by cops trying to run into a bar.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34400 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 3:28 pm to
You realize you can buy a 100 round magazine for a handgun?

Posted by tgr4ever
Gwinnett, baw
Member since Jul 2011
16214 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 3:31 pm to
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Correct, it's people.
Why is everybody so black and white on this issue? Why can't it be that mentally ill people have easy access to guns?
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53112 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 3:34 pm to
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Why is everybody so black and white on this issue? Why can't it be that mentally ill people have easy access to guns?

Maybe it's the diagnosis of mentally ill people? We don't knowingly sell guns to crazy folk
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73208 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 3:37 pm to
You do realize if the nra went away, another guns rights group would pop up, right?
You can be against money in politics, but I don’t buy the idea at all that the NRA is what is standing in the way between inaction and action


You think red state pols and purple state swing votes in congress would all of the sudden pass a bunch of major gun control if nra disappeared?
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18926 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 3:47 pm to
Clueless, the Federal law (Title 18 Section 922(g)) states ADJUDICATED as mentally ill. Simply having some form of mental illness does not automatically serve as a bar for exercising an individual right. Same ignorance that was behind the Obama-era rule change that put thousands of people receiving SSA benefits due to mental illness into the NICS database. Trump signed the repeal of that law February 2018 and was supported by the ACLU and dozens of mental health advocacy groups.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
25962 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 3:48 pm to
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but I don’t buy the idea at all that the NRA is what is standing in the way between inaction and action




You think a company that donates hundreds of millions to several politicians would be ok with them passing laws and regs to make their product harder to get?

quote:

You think red state pols and purple state swing votes in congress would all of the sudden pass a bunch of major gun control if nra disappeared?


That all depends on what the new laws would be, which wouldn't nearly be as bad as most gun advocates think it would be.
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