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re: Dave chappelles new special

Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:13 am to
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:13 am to
Easy to say when you're not the one being stalked.
Posted by RidiculousHype
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:20 am to
Honest question for any black people who watched that:

You can see Dave's emotional, the George Floyd death really hurt him... But why do the rare cases of innocent blacks dying at the hands of whites seem to generate so much more emotion than the much more common cases of innocent blacks dying at the hands of blacks?

Dave's not wrong for being upset about a murder. That's just being an empathetic human. But where was the Dave Chappelle special for the 24 murders in Chicago last weekend?
Posted by lsutigersFTW
Lafayette
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:21 am to
That was pretty incredible. I had a little extra time so I watched it this morning. I could’ve listened to dude talk for two more hours. I was getting goosebumps towards the middle leading to the end when he started re-counting all the things that happened.

<3333 me some Dave
This post was edited on 6/12/20 at 9:22 am
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:21 am to
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That was funny, but his newer stuff seems to abandon the humor part of it. He’s just getting up there and talking. It has the feeling of someone on a lecture circuit instead of a comedy special.



I agree

I appreciate that Dave doesn't really hold back and definitely makes lefties uncomfortable too

But the last couple specials have been 75% profane ranting and 25% clever humor. I don't really notice profanity unless it just becomes overbearing and distracting, but that's how I'd describe his last couple bits

Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:24 am to
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Not really a comedy special
you don't say
Posted by HoarseComeSunday
Shreveport
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:25 am to
I like that he keeps numerology close to him. Dates, times matter & can link to other emotions. I'm the same way.
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:26 am to
More bullshite. There was nothing stopping Martin from high tailing it home and telling his dad he was being stalked. Zimmerman wasn’t between him and home.

And I’ll eat you big money Martin could outrun fat old Zimmerman.

Martin chose to engage instead of run and died because of it.

“Don’t start none, won’t be none” isn’t just a cute saying.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:30 am to
In fairness, there was nothing stopping Zimmerman from being a colossal douche with a gun

He's older, he's wiser, he's carrying a weapon. He should've made better decisions. He stupidly began a chain of events that ended with Martin dead and a national uproar.

I don't blame Zimmerman in a legal sense, I do blame in a "he's a piece of shite and a poor representation of self-defense focused gun owners" sense.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:36 am to
I just watched it, man that was heavy.

My first thought is I really do hate that because of all the riots that happened, that a lot of focus was shifted away from the horrific tragedy with George Floyd. Since then, there has been a bigger focus on the riots and looting that happened nationwide. This was a case where finally most people agreed the cop was in the wrong, fricked up hugely, I believe there was to be some progress made, but all of that ended with the rioting. That brought us steps backward instead of forward. Now the whole #defundthepolice movement is taking us even further back, instead of forward. This entire country is stupid, I swear.

One thing I admit that I did not know was the backstory to the Chris Dorner thing. I thought he was just another random serial killer. But the fact that apparently he tried to speak out against fellow officers and got fired for that is really fricked up. Obviously the acts he did were very despicable, but police should not be afraid of being reprimanded if they try to speak out and hold a fellow officer accountable. That is something that must change imo.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:37 am to
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People who showed up for that should be pissed off.
Willing to bet it was mostly neighbors and friends from town. Was probably filmed on his property.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:39 am to
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CNN played a clip this morning. Dave takes some digs at Don Lemon. They had Lemon on to chuckle about it.



I mean, Dave pretty much calls him a delusional piece of shite, so I don't see what he would be laughing about. And I'm sure Candace Owens is also thrilled this morning with everyone screaming about her stinky pussy.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:40 am to
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Yang's policies are very pro-capitalist and forward thinking.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:44 am to
Would you care to use your words so you can show everyone you are clueless?

Or just wanna stick with the lol emoji?
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17249 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:46 am to
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But part I cannot agree with Dave on is his stance on Trayvon Martin. That was no "innocent kid just buying Skittles". That was a kid who had embraced the thug culture and was on the path of becoming a shitheal thug.

He was up to no good that night. He attacked Zimmerman. Now, Z is no saint by any means. But when attacked, the man had the right to defend himself.

Trayvon wasn't "murdered". He was killed. He'd still be alive today had he not attacked Z.


I don't wanna get into a long debate on Trayvon again, as I've done that many times already. But the way I see it is this, he was not the innocent media darling 14 year old child who randomly got murdered walking home, as the media portrayed.
But at the same time, I don't buy the other extreme that he was up to no good and looking to start trouble. I see it as this, he went to the lil convenience store late night, and really was genuinely walking home minding his business. Zimmerman being Mr wannabe cop, not knowing how to mind his business, started following him. If I see someone following me in the middle of the night, I would be spooked too. One could reasonably say that if you are being followed by a stranger, you may not want to go directly home, as then that person knows where you live.

For Trayvon, Fight or Flight kicked in. Unfortunately he chose the wrong decision with fight or flight.

In any case, I don't like including this case in with police brutality. Zimm wasn't a cop, and this should be treated as everyday violence, and not police violence. Which I like to place in different categories
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:48 am to
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He was attacked because he was stalking Martin.

Nothing the Zim Zam did necessitated an attack. Trayvon was clearly a piece of shite, proven by his history, much of which is on record.

What about the prosecution committing a felony and falsifying a witness (Jeantel)? Nothing fishy about that, huh?

This same thing happened to George Carlin. His HBO specials got darker and darker until it wasn't a comedy show anymore. Then, he died.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17249 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:54 am to
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But why do the rare cases of innocent blacks dying at the hands of whites seem to generate so much more emotion than the much more common cases of innocent blacks dying at the hands of blacks?

Dave's not wrong for being upset about a murder. That's just being an empathetic human. But where was the Dave Chappelle special for the 24 murders in Chicago last weekend?





My take is this, in a way, people pay most attention to these police involved cases directly because of the media and social media. National news make these police cases with random black person headlines, and that will dominate social media feeds. It becomes engrained in you.

Folks don't pay attention to everyday violence simply because it has no attention. It will play on your local news channel, but that's about it. People don't really see these cases of everyday violence, so in a way they can pretend it doesn't exist. You can't pretend these cases of police killings don't exist,, because it is right in front of you.

Another way you can look at it is Katrina. Obviously Katrina was very detrimental to South LA and Miss. It dominated Nationa l news for over a month. But if we being honest, since then there has been other national disasters that were just as devestating if not more that has happened in other countries. But we don't see or hear about those everyday, so it basically doesn't exist here.

In other words, out of sight. Out of mind.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:54 am to
Was that a call for more violence at the end when he said, “this is the end of the road for civil discourse, after that it’s rat-a-tat-a-tat-tat?“ Not a good thing to say, especially after he spent a good portion of that set empathizing with cop killers.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:58 am to
Why weren’t we mad when he robed a pregnant women with a gun?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:09 am to
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“Don’t start none, won’t be none” isn’t just a cute saying.



Zimmerman was the one that started it, dude. I don't think he murdered Trayvon in cold blood, but that piece of shite should certainly be in jail right now for manslaughter.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:11 am to
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Easy to say when you're not the one being stalked.


Ahh.. drama queens.
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