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re: Danny Masterson Sentenced To 30 Years In Prison After Rape Convictions

Posted on 9/8/23 at 7:28 am to
Posted by Covingtontiger77
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 7:28 am to
How does a dude like this survive 30 yrs in a hell hole?


In all honesty if this were me I would off my self in any way possible rather than spend the next 30 yrs in a shite pen.

Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 7:51 am to
Imagine how little you have to value other human beings to drug and rape them. They’d have to truly be like objects to you. So definitely a sociopath.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 8:00 am to
Again, not saying he didn't rape them, but how many rapists do their raping for a year or two to a few women, and then go 20 years seemingly just fine without any raping?
Typically people that do things like this keep doing them until they get caught.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 8:01 am to
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A retrial/second trial was then had in April. It appears the biggest difference between the two trials was the judge allowed prosecutors in the second trial to make direct arguments/statements that Masterson drugged the women before raping them. The women had alleged that in the first trial, but because there was no physical evidence (such as a toxicology report) beyond just the women's testimony, prosecutors were not allowed to directly argue in the first trial the women were drugged. The second big difference is that the judge allowed expert testimony regarding Scientology to be introduced in the second trial. (At least) two of the women had claimed the church of Scientology acted to suppress their allegations and investigations thereof closer to the time when the incidents allegedly happened. It appears those aspects of testimony swayed the jury the other way in the second trial (at least with respect to 2 of the 3 women).


So, if I’m understanding this correctly, the key to his conviction was the allegation that (1) Masterson drugged them and (2) the Church of Scientology covered it up. But there was zero evidence to back up either allegation. But the judge allowed it anyway.

Holy shite. I’m not saying Masterson is innocent. But what I am saying is there is no way to verify what these women allege is actually true or not. Neither allegations should have been allowed in court. He got screwed by the criminal Justice system.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 8:04 am to
That’s illogical , my bro. The evidence was compelling enough to convince a jury. He was convicted. And now he will pay his dues.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 8:05 am to
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Imagine how little you have to value other human beings to allegedly drug and rape them. They’d have to truly be like objects to you. So definitely a sociopath if true..


FIFY
Posted by Sam Quint
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 8:05 am to
has anyone seen anything validating a police report from 2004? or is that just more info from testimony. if there is evidence that, no shite, one of the girls went to the police and accused him of rape in 2004, that would be at least something
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 8:08 am to
I’m not sure if you realize this Darth, but the “ allegedly” does not apply after conviction. He is a convicted rapist. Not an alleged rapist.

Danny Masterson, rapist. No need to BroKnight for a convicted rapist.
Posted by Sam Quint
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 8:10 am to
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The evidence was compelling enough to convince a jury. He was convicted.

juries are morons and they convict or dont convict MANY times based on pure emotion, despite cleaer directions and descriptions of what "beyond reasonable doubt" means. it is up to the justice system to only put cases before a jury if they truly belong there. maybe there was compelling evidence that got him in front of a jury to begin with, but if there is, i sure havent seen anything. it's all just Christine Blasey Ford / Brent Kavanaugh bullshite from what has been described.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 8:11 am to
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The evidence was compelling enough to convince a jury. He was convicted.


Read the post I quoted just above yours. What convinced his was two allegations made by his alleged victims. Neither allegation had any evidence to back it up.

I’m not saying either allegation is true or false. What I am saying is without evidence, there is no way to verify to veracity of the allegations. Neither should have been allowed in court. Masterson may be guilty as sin. But his conviction was based on nothing more than their word which was unconfirmed and had nothing of substance to back it up. The prospect of that being able to stand should terrify you.
Posted by nola tiger lsu
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 8:14 am to
The Ranch was better with him and he contributed more than Ashton to the daily operations.
This post was edited on 9/8/23 at 8:15 am
Posted by Ingeniero
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 8:15 am to
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has anyone seen anything validating a police report from 2004? or is that just more info from testimony. if there is evidence that, no shite, one of the girls went to the police and accused him of rape in 2004, that would be at least something


Here's a link from Leah Remini's substack with a letter from Jane Doe #1's mother to the leader of the Scientologist Church. It details the rape shortly after the time it happened but it's full of scientologist cult jargon.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 8:16 am to
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I’m not sure if you realize this Darth, but the “ allegedly” does not apply after conviction. He is a convicted rapist. Not an alleged rapist.


So, in your mind, a simple allegation is evidence enough to convince someone, even if there is no evidence to support that allegation?

quote:

Danny Masterson, rapist. No need to BroKnight for a convicted rapist.


I’m not “BroKnighting” for anyone. Masterson means nothing to me and for all I know, he might have actually raped these women. The key though is the word “might”. I’m sorry you can’t understand how the justice system was designed to work.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 8:18 am to
That’s an oversimplification of events and testimony , Darth. Dude raped at least three women. He’s not a victim , he’s a rapist. And now he gets what he deserves; a cell, a cot and three squares a day.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 8:20 am to
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he evidence was compelling enough to convince a jury. He was convicted. And now he will pay his dues.



Well it wasn't compelling enough the first two times he was tried.
I guess if at first you don't succeed, try try again.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 8:21 am to
Mistrials and acquittals are different animals. You know that.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 8:21 am to
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I’m not sure if you realize this Darth, but the “ allegedly” does not apply after conviction. He is a convicted rapist. Not an alleged rapist.


and OJ isn't a murderer.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 8:22 am to
Yeah and birds aren’t real and this here earth is a square.
I’m current, bro.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 8:24 am to
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That’s an oversimplification of events and testimony


Then show me the evidence beyond the allegations. Save your lame-assed down vote, and instead show me actual evidence that supports their allegations. Call me old fashioned but for an allegation to stand, there has to be evidence to support it. Until there is, it’s nothing more than an allegation.

quote:

Darth. Dude raped at least three women. He’s not a victim , he’s a rapist. And now he gets what he deserves; a cell, a cot and three squares a day.


You may be right. In fact, you probably are right and he deserves every day of his prison sentence. But, again I ask, other than their allegations of being drugged and raped, what actual evidence is there that these women we in fact drugged and raped.

I’ll wait.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 8:24 am to
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Mistrials and acquittals are different animals. You know that.



I"m not a lawyer.
His first trial was a mistrial b/c it wasn't a unanimous decision by the jury? Is that correct?
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