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re: Dan Carlin Hardcore History Addendum - History on Fire

Posted on 6/29/19 at 11:07 pm to
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 11:07 pm to
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Saying limited government should aim towards helping

Those are conflicting ideologies, Eugene.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 11:08 pm to
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Thats exactly what it is. You use the word “helping” to wrap your shite ideology into a nice little package that sounds good to children and women


I'd link you to a definition but you'd bitch and whine about that too.

So, what's your definition of the role of government? I keep asking you direct question and you dont answer them. What are you afraid of?
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 11:10 pm to
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Thanks for the hardcore history link. I’ll check it out. I’ve never listened to Dan Carlin although I’ve certainly heard he’s great.


Hes the best. Dont listen to the armchair idiots on here
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 11:13 pm to
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EarlyCuyler3
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 11:16 pm to
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Why? How’d we ever get so far without the government’s help? Government is not a charity program. It’s just that, government. If you cut SS, Medicare, etc. how much more productive of a populous would we have. We are, right now, financing people to be leeches. We are financing people to be as lazy as possible.


It's a fair point. I'm operating on the assumption that there has to be a government of some kind. I guess the basis of this debate is what is the government's role in the first place? What exactly is it supposed to do?

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One or two things regarding that. If the government wasn’t subsidizing lazy people’s healthcare, the prices wouldn’t be as high and people would be healthier. It is pretty funny to me how once Medicare and Medicaid came along, we became the fattest country on earth.


I think the laziness is overblown. It does exist though. But I think that's an easy excuse used by the right when wailing about taxes while spending trillions on the war on drugs and terror.

Healthcare will absolutely not lower costs on it's own however. Just look at the epi-pen fiasco for proof of that.

A lot of it is addressed in the podcast where they kind of hint at how when there such a large population that feels like they've been left out, something is going to happen at some point.


Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 11:18 pm to
Feel free to post your beliefs, if you have any other than what you're politicians have told you. Or just keep posting silly pictures like an idiot. Your call.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 11:21 pm to
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Or just keep posting silly pictures like an idiot. Your call.

Challenge accepted, nerd

We found your Youtube channel

Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 11:26 pm to
Notice how once ideas started being talked about the other idiots abandoned the thread?

You're clearly too oblivious to do the same.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 11:28 pm to
You should get your mom to make you some bagel bites. You're hangry.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 11:29 pm to
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lot of it is addressed in the podcast where they kind of hint at how when there such a large population that feels like they've been left out, something is going to happen at some point. 


Propaganda is powerful. These people have the best standard of living, ever.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 11:30 pm to
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These guys never answer honestly about their leanings because they’re embarrassed


Yep.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 11:33 pm to
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Propaganda is powerful. These people have the best standard of living, ever.


I've been just purposefully ignoring your drivel, but the irony here is just too much. Do you even comprehend what you have said?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 11:37 pm to
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Do you even comprehend what you have said?





Absolutely.

You're a propaganda eating machine.

Fewer people are "left out" than ever, and even our poor have a higher standard of living than ever before.

People of lower intellect feel.left out when they're told they're left out, by propagandists.
This post was edited on 6/29/19 at 11:42 pm
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 11:43 pm to
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You're a propaganda eating machine.


Oh the irony.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 11:46 pm to
You still cant tell me why controlled economies are not leftist.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 11:57 pm to
You still haven't manned up and posted your beliefs either. Why is that I wonder?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 6/30/19 at 12:03 am to
Easy.

Federalism
Small, efficient central govt, equal power to the states

Individualism over collectivism

the NAP

Non interventionist foreign policy

Freer markets

Legalize all drugs and vices

Now answer mine
This post was edited on 6/30/19 at 12:09 am
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 6/30/19 at 12:08 am to
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Freer markets


Congrats, you just gave birth to the great depression.

So who'd you vote for?

(And by the way, the answer to your question is in the podcast where they specifically discuss how the definition of left vs right has changed.)

This post was edited on 6/30/19 at 12:09 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 6/30/19 at 12:11 am to
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Congrats, you just gave birth to the great depression.  


That shows your level of ignorance and indoctrination.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 6/30/19 at 12:12 am to
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And by the way, the answer to your question is in the podcast where they specifically discuss how the definition of left vs right has changed.) 


They're wrong.

Central planning was leftist, still is leftist. That's never changed.
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