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re: Dallas PD Guyger Trial: Guilty of Murder..Sentence to 10years in prison

Posted on 9/25/19 at 11:08 am to
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 9/25/19 at 11:08 am to
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But there's no way she just walks.


she's not cute enough to walk.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107808 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 11:14 am to
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DA doing cop a solid IMO. Murder is highly unlikely. Manslaughter would be more appropriate here


Jesus Christ people. Again?


In Texas, the jury can nail her with a lesser charge
This post was edited on 9/25/19 at 11:15 am
Posted by Clyde
Member since Jul 2010
1562 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 11:19 am to
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she wrote she was "super horny today," Hermus said. Later that night, about 9:30 p.m., she sent him a Snapchat message that said, "Wanna touch?"


Nice
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40010 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 11:46 am to
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Jesus Christ people. Again?


In Texas, the jury can nail her with a lesser charge


This happens every single time
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
2157 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 1:59 pm to
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DA violates gag order. Trying to do anything possible to get case tossed so as to not sever alliance with police department.
This post was edited on 9/25/19 at 3:34 pm
Posted by duggieblue
GA
Member since Feb 2010
4361 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 3:17 pm to
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On Tuesday, Armstrong testified that at the time of the shooting the apartment building didn't offer many visual clues to indicate which floor a resident was on. During cross-examination, he said a black placard near the elevator of the parking garage was the only indication of the floor number, and it was a sign a driver had to look hard for. "There were no clear obvious signs showing what level you were on," he testified when questioned by Robert Rogers, one of Guyger's attorneys.


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The Ranger noted that, during his investigation, he heard from several residents who went to the wrong apartment, particularly residents on the third and fourth floors. Armstrong testified that he led a team that interviewed 297 of the 349 residents at the apartment complex, and 15 percent — 46 of those interviewed — had walked to the wrong floor and put their key in the door. The percentage was higher for residents on the third and fourth floors, where 38 residents had gotten confused. Of all the residents interviewed, Armstrong said 93 of the residents interviewed had previously parked on the wrong floor in the parking garage, 76 of them residents living on the third or fourth floor.


Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
37736 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 3:33 pm to
So the judge is allowing this Texas Ranger to offer expert opinion on something the defense is perfectly capable of presenting, and should present, to the jury?

Haven’t been following the trial closely but someone said he was offered as an expert?

Edit: looked like judge wouldn’t admit his testimony as an expert
This post was edited on 9/25/19 at 3:39 pm
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 3:37 pm to
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DA violates gag order. Trying to do anything possible to get case tossed so as to not sever alliance with police department.


Isnt this the same DA that wont prosecute theft under $750?
Posted by nerd guy
Grapevine
Member since Dec 2008
13661 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 3:39 pm to
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walked to the wrong floor and put their key in the door. The percentage was higher for residents on the third and fourth floors,


Definitely been there.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23278 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 3:45 pm to
Not that it should matter here, but it appears the Judge is a black woman and the prosecutor is a black women. I have a hard time believing an off duty cop shooting an innocent black man will get any preferential treatment from them.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37351 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 4:18 pm to
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The thing that makes the "oops wrong apartment" defense seem bullshite to me is that he had a red doormat in front of his apartment while she has nothing in front of her door. Even if I'm tired as hell I'm going to notice a doormat in front of my place that has suddenly appeared out of nowhere.
I just can't get past this. I've lived in apartments/condos for 15 of the last 20 years. I've occasionally gone to the wrong door but never tried to open it. That's because almost every single time, it was the doormat that tipped me off. And those were just different doormats than my own. She didn't even have a doormat in the first place. How do you not notice that? How is a police officer that oblivious to her surroundings? She wasn't a desk officer. She was even a member of the CRT and had additional training in observing her surroundings.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23278 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 5:21 pm to
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I just can't get past this


What can't you get past? You think she went in and shot the guy on purpose? Or how dumb she is? People do dumb things all the time.

Half the issue now is people's eye's are glued to their phones. How many times have you seen someone walk into a street light? Can you not get past that either? How can you rear end someone while on your phone, you didn't see the car in front of you? Screen time makes you not pay attention.
Posted by ever43
Raleigh, NC
Member since Aug 2009
2947 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 5:31 pm to
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I just can't get past this. I've lived in apartments/condos for 15 of the last 20 years. I've occasionally gone to the wrong door but never tried to open it. That's because almost every single time, it was the doormat that tipped me off. And those were just different doormats than my own. She didn't even have a doormat in the first place. How do you not notice that? How is a police officer that oblivious to her surroundings? She wasn't a desk officer. She was even a member of the CRT and had additional training in observing her surroundings.


When I was living by myself in Raleigh, I lived in a mega apartment complex like the one in question. You parked at your floor by your door and went in. The building was shaped like the pentagon, so each corner had and entrance. One night, the deck was really crowded and I parked on a different floor. My boss called before I got out of the car and I had a 20 minute work conversation with him. When I got out of my car, I forgot I was on the floor above. I walked down hallway and went into wrong apartment. Lucky for me, I noticed right away and turned my arse around.

It can happen, but I am shocked she didn't know immediately.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37351 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 5:33 pm to
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What can't you get past? You think she went in and shot the guy on purpose? Or how dumb she is? People do dumb things all the time.
I explained that in the post that you apparently didn't read.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
44656 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 5:34 pm to
Probably already discussed but found a couple things interesting from the Dallas Morning News review of today’s trial:


Her keys were in the lock


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He noted the numbers on each apartment weren't on the doors, but above eye-level and to the left of each door. The apartment numbers are on a light fixture.

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Armstrong testified that he led a team that interviewed 297 of the 349 residents at the apartment complex, and 15 percent — 46 of those interviewed — had walked to the wrong floor and put their key in the door.

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The percentage was higher for residents on the third and fourth floors, where 38 residents had gotten confused.

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93 of the residents interviewed had previously parked on the wrong floor in the parking garage, 76 of them residents who lived on the third or fourth floor.
This post was edited on 9/25/19 at 5:35 pm
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
42225 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 5:39 pm to
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DA violates gag order. Trying to do anything possible to get case tossed so as to not sever alliance with police department.


This happened 3 days ago. And the police don't exactly love this DA to begin with.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 5:41 pm to
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Not that it should matter here, but it appears the Judge is a black woman and the prosecutor is a black women. I have a hard time believing an off duty cop shooting an innocent black man will get any preferential treatment from them.



this entire fiasco brought to you by affirmative action
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 5:43 pm to
I can't believe how many apartment dwellers don't lock their doors...
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 5:44 pm to
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93 of the residents interviewed had previously parked on the wrong floor in the parking garage, 76 of them residents who lived on the third or fourth floor.


How many of these people went to the wrong apartment? And how many of those people shot the man inside, realized they were in the wrong apartment, then called 911 and texted their partner while he was bleeding out despite being trained in first aid
This post was edited on 9/25/19 at 5:46 pm
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37351 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 5:47 pm to
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I can't believe how many apartment dwellers don't lock their doors...
I think the doors lock automatically. They said the base plate for the lock on the door frame was slightly warped just enough to keep the door from locking once in a while. He probably assumed it was locked.
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