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re: Dallas area hospitals are starting to require all staff get Covid vaccine...
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:37 am to shel311
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:37 am to shel311
Dude I was poked like a damn pig roast when I first started working for the hospital
They ran my blood work, and my measles, mumps, rubella, varicella, and hepatitis all showed I didnt have sufficient antibodies
What the frick?
They ran my blood work, and my measles, mumps, rubella, varicella, and hepatitis all showed I didnt have sufficient antibodies
What the frick?
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:38 am to Klark Kent
quote:Honest question, not just trying to be contrary: is it not opening a can of worms to require that private companies employ people regardless of the risk they may pose to coworkers or customers? Not strictly covid related, but just in general.
but i’d rather not see other private companies outside of healthcare forcing their employees to get vaccinated. i feel like we’re opening a can of worms.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:39 am to Klark Kent
quote:While legal to do so, most employers will likely have some alternative to getting vaccinated like remote work or weekly testing and masks for the unvaccinated.
but i’d rather not see other private companies outside of healthcare forcing their employees to get vaccinated. i feel like we’re opening a can of worms.
I think it makes sense for certain other industries critical to supply chain to have a vast majority of its workers vaccinated (meat processors, etc).
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:40 am to Korkstand
quote:
Are all of the unvaccinated just waiting for government to tell them it's ok?
it won't influence my decision if/when it obtains FDA approval - I won't be getting it regardless of FDA approval or not. For that matter, I've never had, nor will have, an annual flu vaccination either
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 10:41 am
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:41 am to Klark Kent
quote:
but i’d rather not see other private companies outside of healthcare forcing their employees to get vaccinated. i feel like we’re opening a can of worms.
Why not? Do you realize how much money/productivity is lost when a worker has to be out due to Covid? Most places require them to quarantine for 7-10 days. If these companies can mitigate these potential losses by requiring vaccinations for their employees, then they should absolutely implement that policy.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:43 am to shel311
quote:I really don't get it. It defies all logic to me. It reminds me of my young kids coming up with an excuse and fillibustering and procrastinating when I tell them they need to do something.
It'll be funny to watch that poster and the others move the goalposts on to the next reason why they're not getting the vaccine.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:43 am to Bonkers119
quote:
Why not? Do you realize how much money/productivity is lost when a worker has to be out due to Covid? Most places require them to quarantine for 7-10 days. If these companies can mitigate these potential losses by requiring vaccinations for their employees, then they should absolutely implement that policy.
Could legitimately be said about any ailment or injury employees could face on or off the job.
quote:
I think it makes sense for certain other industries critical to supply chain to have a vast majority of its workers vaccinated (meat processors, etc).
hmm. i want clean healthy people preparing and fixing my food, yes. But preCOVID did these hypothetical workers go through regular health screenings, provide vaccination status, etc?
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 10:46 am
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:44 am to Burt Reynolds
quote:
We are talking about vaccinated hospital employees here.
We are. You aren’t and now you’re deflecting. You said good luck boycotting a hospital the next time you have a heart attack which has nothing to do with vaccinated employees. Those are your words, everyone can scroll back up and read them
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:48 am to Klark Kent
quote:I’m talking about meat processing plant, etc. being shut down and causing food supply issues. Not worried about the sandwich artists at subway.
i want clean healthy people preparing and fixing my food, yes. But preCOVID did these hypothetical workers go through regular health screenings, provide vaccination status, etc?
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:53 am to WDE24
so was i….
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:54 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
quote:
Great. From now on I am going to require all of my employees to vote for conservatives. If they do not show me the proof of their votes they will be fired.
My company is private after all and liberal policies do far more damage to my business than employees having Covid.
Sure do whatever you feel like hoss. That should help vaccines since it was our GREAT CONSERVATIVE PRESIDENT TRUMP who created the covid vaccine.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:55 am to Klark Kent
quote:Right. Employees can be fired for doing unsafe things, correct? And athletes, for example, can be contractually barred from riding motorcycles. Is this an exemption of some sort or does this fall under contractual freedom?
Could legitimately be said about any ailment or injury employees could face on or off the job.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:56 am to the_watcher
quote:
We are. You aren’t and now you’re deflecting. You said good luck boycotting a hospital the next time you have a heart attack which has nothing to do with vaccinated employees. Those are your words, everyone can scroll back up and read them
So you’ll still be supporting hospitals that require employees to get vaccinated?
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:01 am to Klark Kent
quote:then why are you referencing a preference for clean and healthy people preparing your food. My comment was directed at not having critical supply chains shut down due to outbreaks. For that reason, I think it makes sense for a large percentage of those workers to be vaccinated.
so was i….
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:04 am to Korkstand
quote:
Right. Employees can be fired for doing unsafe things, correct? And athletes, for example, can be contractually barred from riding motorcycles. Is this an exemption of some sort or does this fall under contractual freedom?
fair. there are certainly scenarios where it makes 100% sense. But historically, we’ve never been this diligent in managing risk in terms of employees personal health decisions in jobs where it doesn’t make sense.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:06 am to WDE24
quote:
then why are you referencing a preference for clean and healthy people preparing your food.
i apologize for trying to find some common ground while having a civil debate. you can proceed with disparaging the dirty unvaccinated whenever you like. yes yes, we know - you hope they all die
quote:
My comment was directed at not having critical supply chains shut down due to outbreaks. For that reason, I think it makes sense for a large percentage of those workers to be vaccinated.
you can’t completely mitigate risk of that happening.
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 11:08 am
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:07 am to Klark Kent
quote:ok
you can’t completely mitigate risk of that happening.
Does it make sense for those industries to have high vaccination rates to help mitigate the risk?
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:08 am to Burt Reynolds
quote:
So you’ll still be supporting hospitals that require employees to get vaccinated?
Still deflecting to what you said but fine - if I or a family member has a heart attack I’m not going to direct the ambulance to a facility farther away because the closest trauma center requires vaccines from their employees.
I can be 100% against companies requiring vaccines but put that aside so that a life has a better chance of being saved by not traveling further in the middle of an emergency to appease my personal beliefs
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:10 am to WDE24
quote:
Does it make sense for those industries to have high vaccination rates to help mitigate the risk?
if their employees chose to get vaccinated, yes. It should be encouraged, maybe even rewarded. But the flu or RSV or a stomach bug could just as easily sweep through in this hypothetical.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:13 am to Klark Kent
quote:Agree, but I also understand if an employer, who got shut down and lost millions due to previous outbreaks, decided to require vaccination for its workers.
if their employees chose to get vaccinated, yes. It should be encouraged, maybe even rewarded.
quote:It could. I’m not aware of that happening in recent memory and causing a shortage. However, I think an employer could rationally take measures to mitigate those risks as well.
But the flu or RSV or a stomach bug could just as easily sweep through in this hypothetical.
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