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Posted on 1/13/14 at 9:34 am to MSG
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Mine both go to private school,
Subtle brag
Posted on 1/13/14 at 9:35 am to elprez00
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Me too, but its slow as hell. I have my nice print, and my chickenscratch note print I learned in college. I just never used cursive once I got into high school, and none of my teachers made me.
Right.
For me though, my dad had this incredible print style he used. I love it so much I keep meaning to have someone who's better at it than I am turn it into a font. I spent hours trying to copy it, and do a pretty respectable version.
Cursive is just unnecessary. It's not that when done well it can't be beautiful...it's that the point of written language is to be able to convey a message in written form. Other than style, there's no reason at all to make the lettering fancier than what's needed to do the job. Not a bad idea to continue to teach the ability to read it, given there are still some who use it. But to be graded on writing it? Nope...
Posted on 1/13/14 at 9:37 am to Antonio Moss
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I am. And I handled insurance fraud cases for a few years. Writing sample "experts" lack a lot of credibility and are hard to build a case with. Most fraud is exposed through either eyewitness accounts or patterns of behavior. The two signature fraud cases I won were due to patterns of behavior.
But! there is plenty of case law as well as some really good forensic handwriting specialists out there to make this very arguable..
...Well maybe you're just not a good enough lawyer..
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Smart enough to know cursive is a dying practice.
Yes I understand fully... B/c most contract that I've been dealing in lately then companies I deal with have gone to e-sig's... and you just chose a random signature the computer chose's for you.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 9:40 am to Phil A Sheo
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there is plenty of case law as well as some really good forensic handwriting specialists out there to make this very arguable..
...Well maybe you're just not a good enough lawyer..
Yep, I probably wasn't good enough. Oh well . . .
Posted on 1/13/14 at 9:41 am to SSpaniel
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Now you sound exactly like my kids.
Also, it is faster and generally neater to write in cursive.
I agree with you completely. I forgot to use the sarcasm font. For more emphasis, I could add "Why learn vocabulary?", when everyone has access to an internet dictionary. Dropping cursive is just another exercise in dumbing down.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 9:42 am to Antonio Moss
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Yep, I probably wasn't good enough. Oh well . . .
Knowing your faults and short comings makes you a better person...
Posted on 1/13/14 at 9:47 am to Phil A Sheo
My stepdaughter goes to private school, and they still hand write a lot of their work. I make her do it over if it's not in cursive and not legible.
As for it being pointless, it's possible that the act of writing activates parts of the brain that typing doesn't. Of course, I have nothing to support that, but it's just a thought.
As for it being pointless, it's possible that the act of writing activates parts of the brain that typing doesn't. Of course, I have nothing to support that, but it's just a thought.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 9:58 am to Darth_Vader
My kids in 3rd grade (private) and they are teaching it but not nearly with same zeal as when I was his age..
From a practical standpoint, it's pretty useless but I will take it upon my self to ensure my children understand how to use it correctly.. Any type of formal note needs to be in cursive..IMO
From a practical standpoint, it's pretty useless but I will take it upon my self to ensure my children understand how to use it correctly.. Any type of formal note needs to be in cursive..IMO
Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:02 am to Phil A Sheo
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Knowing your faults and short comings makes you a better person...
Or I just have a policy against arguing with the ignorant.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:13 am to Antonio Moss
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Or I just have a policy against arguing with the ignorant.
.. kind of makes it hard being a lawyer then wouldn't you say??
Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:14 am to Phil A Sheo
Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:15 am to MSG
frick cursive. That's not how you write an s.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:15 am to Antonio Moss
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I don't think anyone here has argued that parents should be forbidden from teaching their kids cursive.
How on earth did you deduce this from what I wrote? My point was that for those parents who feel that cursive is an important skill to have, if they don't teach it in school, teach them yourselves. It's a really simple solution.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:24 am to CoCo311
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How on earth did you deduce this from what I wrote? My point was that for those parents who feel that cursive is an important skill to have, if they don't teach it in school, teach them yourselves. It's a really simple solution.
I personally don't see the huge deal with it being taught in school at all. It's not an area of study that requires it to be taught at every grade level until they reach middle school. Teach it once, and require that they do it when completing homework. It's not that big of a deal.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:36 am to Phil A Sheo
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kind of makes it hard being a lawyer then wouldn't you say??
If you want to pay my hourly fee . . .
Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:37 am to Phil A Sheo
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kind of makes it hard being a lawyer then wouldn't you say??
If you want to pay my hourly fee, send me your billing address.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:39 am to Antonio Moss
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Antonio Moss
Come on, dude. You're better than this. No need to act like a toolbag.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:43 am to TROLA
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Any type of formal note needs to be in typed, IMO.
FIFY.
It's 2014. There is literally no reason to handwrite formal or legal documents.
When all of the baby boomers retire, I hope this will die along with the fax machine.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:44 am to SabiDojo
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Come on, dude. You're better than this. No need to act like a toolbag.
Me?
He made an erroneous statement at the beginning of thread. I simply responded that handwriting analysis isn't used very often in fraud cases, and when they are they don't carry much weight.
He responds "You're obviously not a lawyer."
I respond that I actually handled insurance fraud for a while and came across this issue. In most cases, fraudulent signatures are determined through witness accounts and patterns of behavior.
He responds "maybe you're not a good lawyer."
At that point, what am I supposed to do? The guy isn't saying anything of substance. I'm not spending a few hours citing cases and writing memos to cut and paste into this thread on an issue where I already know the answer.
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