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re: COVID-19 Response: New Jersey Urgently Needs COBOL Programmers

Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:13 am to
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:13 am to
I actually took that class, I would help them out but don’t remember shite as it was obsolete when I took it in early 80s
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33483 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:32 am to
Ah yes. COBOL. I learnt about it in high school. IN 1987
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16572 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:37 am to
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Really? You would choose COBOL today knowing that it's expensive to dev and will only become more so?


Last COBOL revision was in 2014. The fundamental issue is that so many legacy systems run an implementation of COBOL across the world that it would be incredibly expensive and risky to try to move the billions of lines of code to a new standard.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
38897 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:37 am to
COBOL is an absolutely terrible programming language.
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
15325 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:44 am to
So your saying I need to hang up the truck nuts and start picking this up?
Posted by Capstone2017
I love lead paint- PokeyTiger
Member since Dec 2013
2235 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:46 am to
Anyone with any talent, doesn't work for government projects. They test for weed, and have extremely low pay. It's for the people who aren't talented enough to work for private, and couldn't be a professor.
This post was edited on 4/7/20 at 1:35 am
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 1:29 am to
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Why do we as a people allow our governments to be such a joke


Eh. The banking industry is the same way.

COBOL in 2020 is due to vendor lock-in that occurs once big consulting firms and vendors like IBM gets their hooks into organizations.

There will be new versions of the same thing, just with different Rube Goldberg devices.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 1:42 am to
Damn - I only took FORTRAN in college.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29452 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 1:58 am to
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How the hell does a state like New Jersey have such an antiquated system when state software is such a lucrative market for graft?

They're not going to spend one penny out of their hookers and blow fund.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
18256 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 6:12 am to
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Anyone with any talent, doesn't work for government projects. They test for weed, and have extremely low pay. It's for the people who aren't talented enough to work for private, and don't/couldn't be a professor.


Truth teller
Posted by MojoGuyPan
Intercession City, Florida
Member since Jun 2018
2797 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 6:36 am to
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New Jersey desperately needs COBOL Programmers


Mojo be fixin to eat. COBOL and Fortran are my jam. If I was out of a gig because of this and hazard pay included, I'd drop into the hot zone for a few weeks to make some bank.

I'm sure they just need a few coders to bring it from COBOL to something more modern with better scalability.

This isn't going to be some longterm cash cow for COBOL programmers. I will say even though it's obsolete you do see lots of ads for COBOL programmers across the country all the time, but the salaries are inline with other coding jobs. There are lots of us that code in retro languages for fun. Not much money to be made here.
Posted by reverendotis
the jawbone of an arse
Member since Nov 2007
4867 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 7:19 am to
Trivia:

The first person to correctly provide the full names of the acronyms BASIC, FORTRAN, COBOL & PASCAL without looking them up wins the internet.

No cheating.

Go.
This post was edited on 4/6/20 at 7:22 am
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
32959 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 7:21 am to
COBOL was also used to correct Y2K programming issues. While we recruited thousands of programmers from the 70’s, a lot of younger people learned COBOL and assisted, as well. It’s not a dead programming language.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37519 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 7:25 am to
Because it would literally cost a billion dollars to revamp the computer system to the new language and hardware. And they would have to do it at least every decade.
Posted by BoogaBear
Member since Jul 2013
5566 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 7:41 am to
I, like most younger with experience, "know" COBOL in the sense that I can read it to get rid of it.
This post was edited on 4/6/20 at 8:33 am
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
12427 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:08 am to
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Damn - I only took FORTRAN in college.


Me too, but I no longer have my Vic-20 computer with the appropriate compiler. Vax - Kermit
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7138 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:17 am to
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There are hobbiest programmers that deal in COBOL and older programming languages. I've seen groups dedicated to rebuilding and programming computers built in the 1960's, they won't have a problem finding someone. I hope they ask a hell of a contract fee though.



Do you have a few links for those groups handy? I will search for them also.

I took COBOL,FORTRAN and PASCAL at LSU 80s when I thought I was a computer programmer. Love to hate myself again with those old languages. So
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