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re: Could you beat a 135 pound female mma fighter (amanda nunez)without training?

Posted on 8/24/23 at 5:53 pm to
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/24/23 at 5:53 pm to
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I trained with the current lsu men's coach under his family coaches. Our core group all went and played D1 from lsu, Ohio state, smu, Mississippi.





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I got burnt out as shite and didn't want to continue as a walk on so I stepped away.



Jesus Christ bro, I wouldnt admit to that you got burned out as a walk on tennis player

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/24/23 at 5:54 pm to
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I don't see it ITT but it would have taken you less key strokes to just say yes or no. Can you either point me to where you answered it or just type yes or no?
I copy and pasted it

will say, my biggest reasoning for having pretty much zero respect for women against men is from seeing how little it takes to be one of the best in the world at tennis comparatively.

I think women athletes should be EXTREMELY proud of their accomplishments. But should never ever be compared to men

For certain more technical sports, I obviously think the untrained male gets smoked by a pro female.

For others, I think untrained males will win, especially sports that have weight classes AND you also let the male be outside of the weight class

I do think the Serena thing shows though some men really don’t get though just how much more dominating men are then women
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/24/23 at 5:55 pm to
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Do you think an untrained OTer could beat a P5 woman tennis player in 3 or 5 sets?
of course not. It's learned muscle memory like roller skating. Youre going to look stupid for quite some time until you get the hang of it. I play 3.5-4.0 tennis and the only point I could win from a good HS tennis player is if she double faulted
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 5:57 pm to
His question was

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Do you think an untrained OTer could beat a P5 woman tennis player in 3 or 5 sets?


yes or no
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 8/24/23 at 5:57 pm to
WafflePride isn’t a big fan of direct answers.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30499 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 5:58 pm to
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I copy and pasted it


I read that and it doesn't address my question. Your reluctance to answer demonstrates you knew exactly were it was going and you didn't want to be tied up in that guillotine.

Be a big boy and answer yes/no or in the alternative just lay your queen over.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 5:59 pm to
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Do you think an untrained OTer could beat a P5 woman tennis player in 3 or 5 sets?
of course not. It's learned muscle memory like roller skating. Youre going to look stupid for quite some time until you get the hang of it. I play 3.5-4.0 tennis and the only point I could win from a good HS tennis player is if she double faulted



ok lets rephrase the question


Do you think an untrained OTer could beat a professional female MMA fighter in 3 or 5 rounds?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/24/23 at 6:01 pm to
Yes, I think Serena dominates an untrained male without losing a single point
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 8/24/23 at 6:02 pm to
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I know exactly who you are now, and Reid went to Southen Miss not Ole miss….



Haha word. I said smu but i guess that might be southern baptist to most. I fell out of touch with basically all of them except the occasional run into danny at walkons after a football game

They were a good group of people
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 8/24/23 at 6:03 pm to
No.

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111470 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 6:05 pm to
For a sport like mma, weight classes exist because they want the skill to be the focal point, and not brute size and strength. Weight classes are in order for the skill to be the importance

In the OPs hypothetical, not only are you making it female vs male, he is introducing a weight class jump or 70 pounds. Also, mma, or fighting, while skills are involved, is still a sport that has an absolute strength or “one punch” aspect even amongst the best in the world

The only physical sport women seem to have on men where they can close the physical gap is endurance running, and running in general
Posted by Nole Man
Somewhere In Tennessee!
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 8/24/23 at 6:07 pm to
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Why embellish the truth like this? You actually train in BJJ or some form of combat sport, and have never seen another human move as quick? A 58 year old woman is the pinnacle of speed and agility that you've ever seen?


Been training in Krav Maga for 8 years.

I don't watch teenage boys wrestle.

Not embellishing. Yeah she moves fast. Real fast. She'd still be able to kick you in the face before you could blink your eye. And she's retired.

You're welcome to contact her and see if she'd come down to your local Sonic. Probably have to pay travel expenses and a per diem, so it would be an expensive arse kicking.
This post was edited on 8/24/23 at 6:10 pm
Posted by Uncle Gilbert
Member since Jan 2023
77 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 6:07 pm to
So a male would kill the boxer with mma skills but a mma trained female would not have a chance (kill them).

So if the female can take the boxer down they don’t have a chance with bjj? Seriously dude
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
18075 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 6:11 pm to
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Yes, I think Serena dominates an untrained male without losing a single point

I’d just serve it straight at her face every time and over power her because I’m a guy.

Do you see how fricking ridiculous that sounds? That’s you.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 8/24/23 at 6:15 pm to
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For a sport like mma, weight classes exist because they want the skill to be the focal point, and not brute size and strength. Weight classes are in order for the skill to be the importance
only when talking about 2 trained individuals are fighting. If one is in ntrained the weight classes wouldn’t matter. Why else do smaller guys beat big guys in street fights.
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he is introducing a weight class jump or 70 pounds.
that’s wasn’t part of the question. I was just saying I weigh 70 pounds more than Nunez and I don’t think I could take her
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30499 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 6:16 pm to
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Yes, I think Serena dominates an untrained male without losing a single point


JFC you still didn't answer the question.

This is the question:

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Do you think an untrained OTer could beat a P5 woman tennis player in 3 or 5 sets?




But instead of belaboring it I will assume you answer is no to my question.

Think about why you don't think an untrained OTer can beat Serena (or a P5 woman) in tennis. You know from your experience that skill and training FAR outstrip any speed or strength advantage.

What this boils down to is you do not see anything like the same advantage of being trained in MMA. It is a difference of perspective likely in part born out of never having rolled with someone who was far lighter and objectively weaker than you.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111470 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 6:20 pm to
Holyfield outweighs Rousey by over 150 lbs and it’s pure muscle man

Your premises is absolute lunacy
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111470 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 6:20 pm to
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Do you think an untrained OTer could beat a P5 woman tennis player in 3 or 5 sets?
They wouldn’t win a single game

Tennis is very physical, but there is a HUGE technical hill before that physicality even matters
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 8/24/23 at 6:21 pm to
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What this boils down to is you do not see anything like the same advantage of being trained in MMA. It is a difference of perspective likely in part born out of never having rolled with someone who was far lighter and objectively weaker than you.


Training obviously makes a difference but brute strength makes just as big a difference in a physical confrontation. Any moderately fit male should be able to take on any 135 female as long as he’s not a pussy and willing to throw a good punch. Men have mace much higher muscle density than women do so even a guy that doesn’t lift everyday should have more brute strength than an average female mma fighter.

I could probably take her. But I’m an a-hole and kick that bitch in cünt and then beat her until she begs to make me a sandwich and do my laundry.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
18531 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 6:23 pm to
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Tennis is very physical, but there is a HUGE technical hill before that physicality even matters
that’s our entire frickING POINT! so stop comparing other professional fighters to the scenario. Obviously Floyd mayweather or any other trained male would frick up any female. Just like even the 200th best male tennis player could beat Serena. The whole goddamn motherfricking scenario is an untrained person vs a trained one.
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