re: Could What Is Happening In Portland Happen In A Southern City?

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Atlanta maybe

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I would be surprised. I know this isn't popular to say, but I actually think the Mayor, Keisha Lance Bottoms, does a pretty good job.

There was the situation at the Wendy's. People were protesting, the Wendy's was burned down (which some white girl started). People were still protesting and there was a violent night in ATL in which an 8 year old got shot (this had nothing to do with the Wendy's situation, just some hood shite) and she came out and said she was tired of trying to negotiate with the protesters and they would be cleared out, which happened.

I remember watching a press conference with her and while she worded it like a politician, it sounded as if what she really wanted to say was "yall out here protesting over someone who was so drunk he passed out in the drive thru then grabbed a taser and tried to shoot it at the police yet we got 8 year old kids being killed for being at the wrong place at the wrong time"

If you think about it, unlike other areas where there was a black person shot by the police, when it happened in ATL, no matter what yall think of the mayor or that it is ran by a democrat, etc.. That shite was shut down pretty quick. And part of the reason is that a black mayor can say thinks a white mayor might be scared to say,

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Honestly it's kind of the same as the "enclave" issue with immigrants and assimilation - the idea being that latinos in Texas can live in an all-hispanic complex, listen to spanish language radio, watch spanish language TV, eat only native food, go to 99% latino schools, etc.

In Portland, you can probably have a government job or some social advocacy job surrounded by others who went to college to major in SJW issues, go only to fringe leftist coffee shops and restaurants, hang out only in radical bars, listen to radical left radio, etc. There is no diversity of culture or thought and these people are often without prospects or meaningful relationships, which aids in radicalization (like with AQ, ISIS or any other extremist group).

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there is some strong damn truth to this

People don't understand that even though we are in one country enclaves do exist, and we shouldn't get mad over what happens in one of them, thats just way of life for them

and know that it won't happen here

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Austin

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Only if the governor was a Democrat.

They also don’t have the same lack of diversity in political ideology as places like Portland. They aren’t nearly as extreme.

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I would be surprised. I know this isn't popular to say, but I actually think the Mayor, Keisha Lance Bottoms, does a pretty good job.

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I don't think she does a good job, but it's definitely true she had no good options.

The reality is that mayors like that have their finger in the dam, and when they start to cower on any issue it quickly spirals out of control. For example, the cops in the tasering incident thrown to the wolves, which set a precedent for the Brooks shooting. From there it just gets worse and worse.

Atlanta isn't really set up for constant unrest (at least yet), so letting things die out is the right move. But it was made worse by trying to throw bones to your supporters, which only emboldened the crazies and prolonged the issues.

We say it all the time, but you cannot appease looters or rioters or radicals. Arresting some cops on trumped up charges is not going to solve anything, it just signals that the violence and destruction are resulting in meaningful outcomes and encourages more of the same. And it disincentivizes law enforcement from doing anything, so you're left with a frothing mob and no protection.

Bottoms is different in that she wants city life to return to a productive (yet progressive) norm. She's concerned with KLB, not racial justice. I don't think someone like Ted Wheeler or even DeBlasio thinks like that. They're radicals who see self-preservation as being on the side of the mob. Meanwhile Keisha thinks self-preservation occurs when she gets shite under control ASAP. As mentioned, she should have held the line and let the situation die out. It probably would have mean another night or two of rioting, but I think we'd be in the same position ultimately, and likely with better cop morale and a lower body count across the city.

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Maybe you should go talk to some then, because that has NOT been my experience with the black neighbors and colleagues I've talked to about it. And these are all successful black men and women in their 40's and 50's. The overarching theme I get from them is they're tired. Tired of seeing these things happen, tired of explaining to white people why it upsets them, tired of telling white people of the conversations they have with their kids about police, and tired of the backlash that always comes after these events.

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Black people who live in areas that are mostly white probably feel more threatened by police, but black people who live around poorer areas with higher crime feel more threatened by the crime around them than the police and they don't have a problem sharing their point of view.

I am not saying this is all black people, I am just saying there are black people who see what's "really" going on. A black person pointed out to me that the same shite that has gone on during the Summer was the same playbook that was used in 2016. It all happened around the same time of year and everything. Early summer, they find that one situation and make it a huge story. As things seem like they are dying down, another story gets thrown into it just to keep the flame burning. It is a mask to hide other shite that is going on.

And evidently BLM needs those situations to happen every so often in order to keep the money coming in.

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getting high watching their 85 inch tv

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Always nice to find common ground