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re: Coronavirus: How the youngest 25 in Florida died of COVID-19
Posted on 7/18/20 at 9:09 am to escatawpabuckeye
Posted on 7/18/20 at 9:09 am to escatawpabuckeye
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would totally be better if we just ignored it and went about our normal routines.
There is a legitimate case to be made that the country would have been in a much better place had we actually done that as opposed to the massive shutdowns, especially in states that didn’t have spikes at the time
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Posted on 7/18/20 at 9:49 am to East Coast Band
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What needs to be done is that EBT food purcahses can only be used for approved healthy, low calorie foods.
The health care costs and Medicaid costs and the perceived inequity, racial healthcare can all be solved.
Or we could give McDonalds to people to entice them to get tested
Posted on 7/18/20 at 10:06 am to Oilfieldbiology
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There is a legitimate case to be made that the country would have been in a much better place had we actually done that as opposed to the massive shutdowns, especially in states that didn’t have spikes at the time
To me, the most concerning part of our country's approach to this pandemic has been the "follow the leader" approach we have taken.
Not all states are the same. Not all states were facing the same amount of community spread. Hell, not all state regions or counties were facing the same amount of community spread. However, as soon as just ONE state shut down, the rest followed.
Our approach was not rooted in sound science and nuanced planning. It was all liability management and political posturing. Once one governor made the decision to shut down, every other governor became terrified of being viewed as the one who didn't do enough. Hell, in Alabama Meemaw didn't consider shutting down until the Tuscaloosa mayor shut his city down and instituted a curfew. He immediately got on twitter and started slinging shite at the governor. She caved, and we shut down the whole damn state way too early before we had any real community spread or "first wave". Now, she can't shut down anything because people are fed up with it.
Even more concerning, is this "follow the leader" approach has permeated every ounce of decision making that is going on. It is more about liability and political face saving than anything else. They are terrified of the vocal minority hacking away on Twitter all day every day.
Posted on 7/18/20 at 10:18 am to escatawpabuckeye
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may 6 over 2 months ago
Yeah.
But, percentage that die with these sorts of issues likely unchanged.
Posted on 7/18/20 at 10:37 am to lsu xman
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hypertension, diabetes, and morbid obesity
The three horsemen of health
Posted on 7/18/20 at 11:06 am to escatawpabuckeye
Europe you say.
LINK
(Reuters article)
looks like Britain is pausing death toll data collection
and
looks like they are experiencing a lot of the same fraudulent and mismanaged data collection and analysis we are.
look we aren't perfect, but to portray Europe as the model can be dangerous.
Do you agree then we should "Look to Europe" and open all schools full time like the majority of Europe? Or do you only agree with things that fit your narrative?
LINK
(Reuters article)
looks like Britain is pausing death toll data collection
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over concerns the toll might have been exaggerated.
and
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patients who tested positive for coronavirus, but were successfully treated, would still be counted as dying from the virus “even if they had a heart attack or were run over by a bus three months later”.
looks like they are experiencing a lot of the same fraudulent and mismanaged data collection and analysis we are.
look we aren't perfect, but to portray Europe as the model can be dangerous.
Do you agree then we should "Look to Europe" and open all schools full time like the majority of Europe? Or do you only agree with things that fit your narrative?
Posted on 7/18/20 at 11:10 am to lsu xman
I agree with the article, but this is dumb:
Pneumonia and ARDS are caused by COVID. It’s not like they are the same thing as someone having diabetes, asthma, and morbid obesity.
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A Hispanic man, 37, in Palm Beach County,"with no significant medical history" went to a local hospital on April 17 with complaints of cough, fever, and shortness of breath for two days. Chest x-rays revealed fluid in the lungs. He had pneumonia, acute kidney injury, and acute respiratory distress syndrome. COVID-19 test was collected on April 17 and came back positive on April 20. He died April 25. Contributing factors: pneumonia and ARDS.
Pneumonia and ARDS are caused by COVID. It’s not like they are the same thing as someone having diabetes, asthma, and morbid obesity.
Posted on 7/18/20 at 11:35 am to LegendInMyMind
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Our approach was not rooted in sound science and nuanced planning. It was all liability management and political posturing.
Exactly.
Posted on 7/18/20 at 11:53 am to Oilfieldbiology
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There is a legitimate case to be made that the country would have been in a much better place had we actually done that as opposed to the massive shutdowns
Two things are certain: It would be over by now, and we would have a lot more dead people.
Posted on 7/18/20 at 12:10 pm to lsu xman
In our country, Since 2/1/20, 188 deaths between the ages of 0-24 died with Covid19. In that same period of time, in the same age range, 155 have died with Influenza.
What does this data tell you baws?
What does this data tell you baws?
This post was edited on 7/18/20 at 12:11 pm
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