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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:35 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:35 pm to lsupride87
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I have yet to really here a logical argument against this. Just the “hospitals will be overwhelmed”
I mean...
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:37 pm to lsupride87
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two of those you absolutely have complete control over
lmao
Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:37 pm to NawlinsTiger9
During a hurricane we always say, 'If you choose to stay behind you will not get help.'
Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:38 pm to lsupride87
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Most people don't choose when they have a stroke, when they have a heart attack, when the get into a car accident or accident at work.
two of those you absolutely have complete control over
Which two?
Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:38 pm to fightin tigers
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During a hurricane
bruh
Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:39 pm to fightin tigers
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During a hurricane we always say, 'If you choose to stay behind you will not get help.'
We shut the businesses down for that too.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:39 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Do we? They are forced?
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 6:40 pm
Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:39 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:You do not have to go to work
lmao
You do not have to drive in your car
Just stay consistent is all I ask
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:42 pm to lsupride87
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You do not have to go to work
You do not have to drive in your car
You can be sitting in your house and a car smash into it. I thought you weren't going to be a shite head poster this go round...
Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:43 pm to LNCHBOX
How many people are getting infected in Walmart right now
Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:43 pm to LNCHBOX
I don’t
Bottom line, for the majority of situations and scenarios, one can absolutely control their own risk if they truly cared too or wanted too
Are there outlying situations? Yes.
But y’all are also playing a zero sum game, insinuating that every single hospital would be overrun to handle every single situation. That also isn’t true even with zero mitigation
quote:Im glad we are bringing up ridiculous scenarios
ou can be sitting in your house and a car smash into it. I thought you weren't going to be a shite head poster this go round...
Bottom line, for the majority of situations and scenarios, one can absolutely control their own risk if they truly cared too or wanted too
Are there outlying situations? Yes.
But y’all are also playing a zero sum game, insinuating that every single hospital would be overrun to handle every single situation. That also isn’t true even with zero mitigation
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:52 pm to lsupride87
My main point is we have seen society handle awful deadly pandemics
1918 Spanish flu
1957 Asian flu
1968 Hong kung flu
Etc
Those were bad and very deadly, but a dent as far as society is concerned. We don’t really know the consequences of shutting down the global economy, forcing businesses to close, handing out trillions, etc etc
I don’t think people are idiots for agreeing with the shutdown, but we have already faced the enemy of deadly pandemics and came through “fine” as far as the society as a whole is concerned
We have now created a new enemy that I’m not sure what the ultimate consequences will be
Maybe we save tons of lives and society bounces back and the govt doesn’t change
But what if that isn’t the case? What if we save lives but the economy completely crashes and big govt overreach plants it’s seed and spreads at a rapid pace?
I think it’s ridiculous from both sides that nobody wants to discuss each other’s viewpoint
1918 Spanish flu
1957 Asian flu
1968 Hong kung flu
Etc
Those were bad and very deadly, but a dent as far as society is concerned. We don’t really know the consequences of shutting down the global economy, forcing businesses to close, handing out trillions, etc etc
I don’t think people are idiots for agreeing with the shutdown, but we have already faced the enemy of deadly pandemics and came through “fine” as far as the society as a whole is concerned
We have now created a new enemy that I’m not sure what the ultimate consequences will be
Maybe we save tons of lives and society bounces back and the govt doesn’t change
But what if that isn’t the case? What if we save lives but the economy completely crashes and big govt overreach plants it’s seed and spreads at a rapid pace?
I think it’s ridiculous from both sides that nobody wants to discuss each other’s viewpoint
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 6:55 pm
Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:57 pm to lsupride87
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1918 Spanish flu
1957 Asian flu
1968 Hong kung flu
Our response to this is based in part on what worked in those pandemics. Namely shutting down schools and businesses temporarily and banning large public gatherings
Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:58 pm to JohnnyKilroy
If you are even hinting at those pandemics being handled like this is then discussion isn’t worth having and I will gladly bow out
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 4/1/20 at 7:01 pm to lsupride87
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1918 Spanish flu
quote:
Those were bad and very deadly, but a dent as far as society is concerned
The Spanish Flu killed 3-5% of the Earth's population. That's a bit more than a "dent."
Posted on 4/1/20 at 7:01 pm to lsupride87
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big govt overreach
I hear you, but this isn't really new, right?
And it's not like that problem would be solved by letting this virus run rampant without restriction.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 7:03 pm to NawlinsTiger9
I have never really seen or heard of the govt basically forcing people to stop business across the board. That feels new
And because of that, people that actually wanted to work and not be on the govt tit will now be forced into that situation. Just worries me, a lot. Far more than losing 2 million Americans does from a macro standpoint
I think losing 2 million Americans would have been awful and emotional as hell, but I don’t think losing 0.5% of our population(skewing towards the elderly) really has any lasting effect does it?
This reaction potentially has a lot of lasting effects.
And because of that, people that actually wanted to work and not be on the govt tit will now be forced into that situation. Just worries me, a lot. Far more than losing 2 million Americans does from a macro standpoint
I think losing 2 million Americans would have been awful and emotional as hell, but I don’t think losing 0.5% of our population(skewing towards the elderly) really has any lasting effect does it?
This reaction potentially has a lot of lasting effects.
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 7:05 pm
Posted on 4/1/20 at 7:08 pm to lsupride87
Would have had some terribly emotional consequences and definitely financial.
I'm completely onboard that we have saved lives at an incredibly great cost.
I really do believe it being an election year has changed how our government would have reacted.
I'm completely onboard that we have saved lives at an incredibly great cost.
I really do believe it being an election year has changed how our government would have reacted.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 7:10 pm to lsupride87
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This reaction potentially has a lot of lasting effects.
like what?
And if we lost that many Americans while the government did next to nothing, we'd probably be facing some other issues, too, no?
I don't have all the answers, I just don't think it's realistic for our leadership to sit idly by while MILLIONS of people died.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 7:11 pm to rds dc
US daily total crossed 1,000 and Global approaching 5k.
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