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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:36 am to
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:36 am to
Robbers storm Danish ER, make off with masks and hand sanitizer LINK
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:47 am to
Interesting article from JAMA about one hospital in China's experience.

LINK
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:48 am to
Love the mass downvoting for every post in this thread

Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:48 am to
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it should be a little easier to develop a vaccine than flu because of lower mutation rates


Is there a vaccine for the common cold or flu yet?
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19470 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:52 am to
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Scruffy - I have a question. Not questioning the severity of all this. Just genuinely curious. If the flu does kill so many more people, do we not see the same overwhelm in hospitals during flu season? Do flu deaths not require the same level of care in hospitals that COVID19 does?



Flu doesn't generally require ICU respirator treatment. That is the issue.

There are a VERY small number in the US relative to the population. That's the big concern and what it crushing Italy right now.
This post was edited on 3/16/20 at 11:04 am
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19470 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:53 am to
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Is there a vaccine for the common cold or flu yet?



Rhinovirus (common cold) has over 200 strains so no, not really.

What do you think the flu shot is each year? It's a vaccine they make for the presumptive most common strain for that season.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:58 am to
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Hopefully, we'll soon have an effective drug that can help people who get sick.


I agree. If we find something even moderately effective it can bring the critical rate down and dramatically reduce the stress on the system. It doesn’t have to be a miracle cure.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:01 am to
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WaWaWeeWa



So no answers then?
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19470 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:03 am to
Methylprednisolone has been very effective with cases that develop ARDS.

Bases on the patient 31 article, people need to take this seriously and quarantine for a week or two.

If you have the ability to work from home, do it. You may not be at high risk but others are and will be for a while.

Have a bunch of idiots at our office going in trying to be ignorant hero's when our massive company offered WFH until April 30th.

Really hate people sometimes.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
25828 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:05 am to
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Right now at a minimum this virus is 10 times deadlier than H1N1 and just as effective at transmission. If you look at the same points in time from initial cases to progression at the 90 day mark, this looks about ten times worse as far as fatality rate.


Holy hell this is a major scare tactic. I guess we should ignore all the data points and use our feelings.

No matter how hard you try, we are not getting the pandemic you wish for.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:06 am to
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So no answers then?


This is the last time I’m going to respond to you unless you tell me what you are asking
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:08 am to
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I guess we should ignore all the data points and use our feelings.


What data points? Be specific. Maybe instead of saying he is ignoring data points you could just post them to support your belief. Crazy thought huh
This post was edited on 3/16/20 at 11:18 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:11 am to
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Holy hell this is a major scare tactic. I guess we should ignore all the data points and use our feelings.

No matter how hard you try, we are not getting the pandemic you wish for.


I find it very typical of this thread that the upvote downvote ratio between his post and mine is what it is



And he didn't even bother to respond
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
25828 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:11 am to
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Then why are you posting in the thread?


Because this thread is more hurtful than helpful.

Some people want to see the world burn and some of us are here to toss a pail of water on it.

Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:12 am to
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This is the last time I’m going to respond to you unless you tell me what you are asking


How is it you see these posts but continually ignore the ones all of two pages ago?
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
25828 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:12 am to
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Again, who decides what the facts are?


Judging by the DVs you got, you do not get to decide
Posted by uscpuke
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:13 am to
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LNCHBOX

Generally agree with you, but please reask the question or STFU about it.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88012 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:13 am to
Swine flu first case in the US was April. By June there were 1 million cases. We aren’t close to that curve.
Posted by Malik Agar
Member since Nov 2012
12076 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:14 am to
Downvotes don't mean anything in this thread. Lots of informational and 100% true posts get downvoted.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:14 am to
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Generally agree with you, but please reask the question or STFU about it.


No thanks. The posts don't disappear and they aren't buried a hundred pages ago.
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