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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 3/7/20 at 6:45 am to
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
6344 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 6:45 am to
If you want to see what true doom casting looks like visit r/china_flu.
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
7291 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 6:53 am to
Are you saying this virus that is moving throughout the world, infecting thousands and killing one or two percent of infected people isn't a big story? All I did was state a fact yet you roll eyes at me. Of course it's a big story. You shouldn't panic or freak out but it's a big story obviously.
Posted by LarryDavid
Los Angeles
Member since Sep 2010
4207 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 7:00 am to
The cruise ship is a perfect environment to use those people as lab rats. I'm sure that's what is going to happen. They have a great opportunity for this country to monitor 3,500 people and see what happens first-hand as far as stats go. They will all be tested, probably more than once, plus they are still in the place with the virus. They'll probably inspect that ship very closely once they move them to dry land.

Saw where China makes more than 95 percent of all the drugs for the US. Did not know that was the case. We are almost totally dependent of them right now.
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
8296 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 7:10 am to
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Saw where China makes more than 95 percent of all the drugs for the US. Did not know that was the case. We are almost totally dependent of them right now.


Thirty years of electing globalist on both sides will do that.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 7:34 am to
quote:

The Charleston case looks like travel related but the Kershaw case sounds like community spread. At least WYFF4 didn’t mention she traveled.


Kershaw....so damn random.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 7:53 am to
Total recovered= 57,462


Recovery rate numbers continues to outpace new infections and deaths combined.



Total population that is currently infected world wide 45,009 out of 7.7 billion people world wide.


0.0000058% of the worlds population is confirmed to be infected by Coronavirus.
This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 8:03 am
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
18170 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 8:06 am to
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Vol is just trying to tell everybody that this isn't comparable with influenza. The mortality rate looks to be hundreds of times higher.


The theme of this thread is that if someone post anything that might hint the seriousness of the situation, it’s “panic”. The problem is that even if you’re cool as a cucumber, you still have to deal with the panic because it on a large scale with this. Got kids? Schools are closing. Got a small business? It’s going to be affected. Know any elders? Worry for them.



Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 8:07 am to
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Two people who attended the American Israel Public Affairs Committee conference in Washington earlier this week have tested positive for the coronavirus, the group tweeted Friday. Thousands of people attended the policy conference, including some members of Congress and administration officials. Vice President Mike Pence and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo were among the speakers.


quote:

Russia Confirms Four New Coronavirus Cases
This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 8:08 am
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42449 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 8:08 am to
So, if you recover are you immune going forward?
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 8:20 am to
No one knows for how long you would be immune. It’s been proven that immunity to cronoavuruses doesn’t last as long as immunity to flu. So you may be able to get reinfected after a few years.

ETA: I shouldnt have said anything about flu. That gets complicated because of multiple different strains. Your immunity to one strain can last awhile but a different strain comes out almost every year. See evidence a few posts below
This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 8:42 am
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 8:22 am to
There is zero evidence to support what you just said.
Posted by DollaChoppa
I Simp for ACC
Member since May 2008
84774 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 8:23 am to
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Recovery rate numbers continues to outpace new infections and deaths combined.



Not trying to be negative, but this is just because of the lag in the time it takes to recover after being infected, and the lag in time between the quick spreading of the virus in china and it just beginning to spread worldwide quickly now.

It's not really a sign of "everything is all good now"

If the recovery rates outside of china were outpacing the new infection and death rates, that may be a different story.

Plus to your last point, as we all know, these numbers are highly dependent on actual testing

Again, not trying to be negative, I just get really irked by people misusing data.
This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 8:25 am
Posted by hombreman9
USA
Member since Feb 2009
3782 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 8:26 am to
There is evidence. He is talking about other strains of coronavirus that have always been endemic. Immunity to these strains only lasts about 5 years.
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
10895 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 8:28 am to
Got a mostly pre-paid trip to NYC in about 7 days. Been looking forward to it for 3 months.

I'd almost rather catch the virus than to eat the money.

Currently weighing the risks. The problem I think we have is the testing and the numbers are likely being seriously under reported.

Stay or go?
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 8:28 am to
quote:

There is evidence. He is talking about other strains of coronavirus that have always been endemic. Immunity to these strains only lasts about 5 years.


Those Coronavirus strains are different from this current one. He is guessing and has no idea what he is talking about.
Posted by DollaChoppa
I Simp for ACC
Member since May 2008
84774 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 8:30 am to
Go for sure. Unless you are old or unhealthy, then stay in.

But its not like an international trip where youll have to worry about being quarantined when you come back.
Posted by DollaChoppa
I Simp for ACC
Member since May 2008
84774 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 8:31 am to
quote:

Those Coronavirus strains are different from this current one. He is guessing and has no idea what he is talking about.




Did you even read his post?

quote:

No one knows for how long you would be immune. It’s been proven that immunity to cronoavuruses doesn’t last as long as immunity to flu. So you may be able to get reinfected after a few years.


This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 8:33 am
Posted by hombreman9
USA
Member since Feb 2009
3782 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 8:32 am to
“No one knows how long you will be immune”. “You may be able to get reinfected after a few years.”

I see no problem with these statements.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 8:33 am to
LINK

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A study evaluating the immune response in patients infected with severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV) showed antivirus antibodies in survivors can be detected by ELISA and immunofluorescence assay (IFA) for up to 24 months after infection (1). Another study revealed that SARS-CoV antibodies were not detectable at 6 years after infection


LINK

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But in the case of the new coronavirus, according to Zhan, doctors don't think the antibodies patients develop are strong or long-lasting enough to keep them from contracting the disease again.


LINK

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“There is some evidence that people can be reinfected with the four coronaviruses and that there is no long-lasting immunity,” Dr. Susan Kline, an infectious disease specialist at of the University of Minnesota. “Like rhinoviruses [which cause the common cold], you could be infected multiple times over your life. You can mount an antibody response, but it wanes, so on subsequent exposure you don’t have protection.” Subsequent infections often produce milder illness, however.
LINK

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The new coronavirus closely resembles the ones that cause SARS and, to a lesser extent, MERS. There are no reports of reinfections with the SARS virus, Dr. Perlman said, and only one that he has heard of in a patient recovering from MERS. Dr. Perlman’s research with MERS has shown that the strength of the immune response depends on the severity of the infection, but that even in those with severe disease — which should produce the strongest immune responses — the immunity seemed to wane within a year.
This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 8:40 am
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85116 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 8:34 am to
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Stay or go?



Go... if your are under 50 and have no pre existing conditions, even if you got it, you will be ok.

The concern would be coming back and possibly spreading to more susceptible people.
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