re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

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First in a 1st world country... although was diagnosed after, so likely wasn’t treated properly. Plus she was 80

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do you realize you suffer from the same cognitive biases of all the doomsayers on here? Your cognitive dissonance is looking for every reason to confirm your belief that people are only dying because “it’s China”

There’s a lot of 80 year olds here too you know. Just because you might not fall into that demographic doesn’t make it less important.

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do you realize you suffer from the same cognitive biases of all the doomsayers on here?

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No I’m just a realist... I’ll go on the facts. And the facts are still that there is no indication this is any more deadly than the yearly flu and will be an issue here in the states or any other developed country.

Sorry not sorry for not being a chicken little.

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So very “factual”

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I guess you don’t understand what “likely” is... I never said it was fact... But I’ll double down and say she def wasn’t treated properly being they didn’t even know she had it until after death.

But carry on with your sky is falling bullshite

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the facts are still that there is no indication this is any more deadly than the yearly flu and will be an issue here in the states or any other developed country.

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There's also the fact that China has done unprecedented lockdowns/quarantines, is welding people in their apartments, and essentially shutting down everything in huge regions for weeks. The way China is acting tells me that this is either more deadly than the yearly flu, more contagious than the yearly flu, or probably both.

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Dead has always been the same definition.

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You have zero. And I do mean ZERO evidence that this patient wasn’t treated appropriately. You do however have a serious bias that you just revealed to everyone.

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So you’re saying she was appropriately treated for Coronavirus even though they didn’t know that she has Coronavirus until after she died, so they retroactively treated her for Coronavirus to make up for it

And she was hospitalized on Feb 1 for Pneumonia. So the test took nearly two weeks to come back positive since you’re saying they assumed it was Corona.

Will be interesting to see if any of the docs/nurses come down with it.

And what’s my bias exactly? That I’m not screaming and hoping for an epidemic

It already is an epidemic, technically. I think the word you are looking for is pandemic. Happy to help!

That’s been my point from the beginning. The treatment is mainly supportive. Your theory that this is only going to be bad in China means you think their supportive capabilities are significantly inferior to ours. That may be true to a minor extent just due to a large population, but people were dying from the beginning before anything was completely overwhelmed.

They have ventilators, they have tamiflu, they have steroids.

This isn’t some disease that requires strict contact precautions, rare medication or a technical surgical procedure where we would have an advantage.

Somewhere in China, a bean/rice counter has the numbers of deaths from previous years. Somewhere, that counter is going to create a graph that averages five years (or so) of data to show how, each day, more people added to the number the day before makes a graph slope.

I really want to see that hypothetical graph overlaying the graphs we are seeing from Hubei province.

One thing I thought I saw in the "number of new cases confirmed" reports was that it almost always dropped on Saurday (reported here Sundays). We never have seen the number of new cases as a percentage of the number of tests administered , and then a split out in "Tests administered" into new patients v. retests of previous negatives.

And finally, we'll never know the competence of the technicians the internal tests for reproducibility and the purity of the "test" much less which tests are used and or not used.