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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 8/12/20 at 12:01 pm to S1C EM
Posted on 8/12/20 at 12:01 pm to S1C EM
Check out the Worldometer site.
Probably not the best data, but they make some useful visual tools. They have the same sort of figures for death data, too, which might have been the better thing to use. I don' know.
Here are daily deaths of Sweden and Peru. We all know the story of Sweden, but Peru has had a strict military lockdown since March 16th.
I'm sure it's not so clean and clear-cut when looking at latitudes and this possible seasonal aspect when you examine everywhere, but just a few things I've seen discussed elsewhere and looks to make sense.
Probably not the best data, but they make some useful visual tools. They have the same sort of figures for death data, too, which might have been the better thing to use. I don' know.
Here are daily deaths of Sweden and Peru. We all know the story of Sweden, but Peru has had a strict military lockdown since March 16th.
I'm sure it's not so clean and clear-cut when looking at latitudes and this possible seasonal aspect when you examine everywhere, but just a few things I've seen discussed elsewhere and looks to make sense.
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Posted on 8/12/20 at 1:19 pm to Sasquatch Smash
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Peru has had a strict military lockdown since March 16th.
So are they still on it? I noticed a number of the other countries mentioned, as well as Hawaii, all seemed to be under a lockdown, but recently started easing restrictions.
The whole thing is nuts, honestly. It seems every time someone has a reasonable theory that gives us some hope, the expectations end up getting dashed. The thing that concerns me now is if this doesn't start easing up soon, we're going to have people fighting both the flu and COVID at once. BTW, we've already got two schools who opened up now shut down because of over 900 quarantines in each in less than 10 days.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 1:37 pm to S1C EM
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he whole thing is nuts, honestly. It seems every time someone has a reasonable theory that gives us some hope, the expectations end up getting dashed.
Just know that we will survive, the world is not ending. The fearmongering wanted this to be Spanish Flu, but it has not yet surpassed the Asian Flu or Hong Kong Flu pandemics.
It was novel, but it's not like our immune systems can't handle it.
Wash your hands, try to avoid obviously sick people, stay home if you're sick has been and still is the best advice.
The mitigation strategies should never have been forced upon us as they already knew they didn't work.
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The thing that concerns me now is if this doesn't start easing up soon, we're going to have people fighting both the flu and COVID at once.
This should be happening in the Southern Hemisphere now, and likely happened here during the height of everything. Flu season peaked in mid-February in the USA this year.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 1:55 pm to Sasquatch Smash
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Just know that we will survive, the world is not ending.
Oh don't worry, I agree. I'm just concerned for some family and close friends who happen to have or are going through other medical issues that could make this deadly to them. That's my biggest fear in all of this. My wife's practice has already lost several patients and some friends of ours have lost family members. It would just be nice to see some light at the end of the tunnel. This is weighing on everyone.
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The mitigation strategies should never have been forced upon us as they already knew they didn't work.
I think the lockdowns were likely unnecessary, but there's plenty of supportive data for most masks. I wish that were not a political sticking point for people. Masks and social distancing and I think we could generally carry on and see a decrease in cases.
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This should be happening in the Southern Hemisphere now, and likely happened here during the height of everything. Flu season peaked in mid-February in the USA this year.
Hopefully, the two converging won't have the impact that I fear it may. Nothing we can do but wait it out and see.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 4:07 pm to WaWaWeeWa
For at home treatment what is currently considered best or safest over the counter medicines to take and what should be avoided?
Outside of obvious emergency situations when should family or patient start to push for more aggressive treatment from doctor?
Not sure person I know was given best advice on over the counter Meds or when to push for more aggressive treatment after testing positive with moderate to above moderate symptoms for a week.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:21 pm to S1C EM
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It seems that if you give it an inch, it immediately grabs the mile. To me, that is very much different than what we see out of similar viruses.
Show the curves for New York, Nola, Jefferson. And if we would have had the testing availability we have now for these places their initial peaks would have been huge like the ones we are seeing now.
The increases you are talking about are occurring where they didn’t have a first outbreak.
This post was edited on 8/12/20 at 6:28 pm
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:29 pm to dallastigers
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For at home treatment what is currently considered best or safest over the counter medicines to take and what should be avoided? Outside of obvious emergency situations when should family or patient start to push for more aggressive treatment from doctor? Not sure person I know was given best advice on over the counter Meds or when to push for more aggressive treatment after testing positive with moderate to above moderate symptoms for a week.
Thats really hard to answer. I’m not going to try to give you any advice without knowing someone’s current condition very well or their medical history. There really isn’t any good evidenced based research right now to say what’s best. I hope they get well soon.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:42 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Obesity not much of a risk factor in patients over 60
HUGE risk factor in young male patients. BMI over 40 has a 12-17x increased risk of death! I’d like to see tighter error bars but there is a clear trend.
Wow
This post was edited on 8/12/20 at 6:43 pm
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:09 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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BMI over 40 has a 12-17x increased risk of death
Posted on 8/12/20 at 8:29 pm to heatom2
To clarify, that’s only for people under 60. The disparity is not nearly as much for those over 60.
A 5’11” male is > 40 at 290 lbs
A 5’5” female is > 40 at 245 lbs
In the US there are 28,000,000 people with a BMI over 40
Not good
A 5’11” male is > 40 at 290 lbs
A 5’5” female is > 40 at 245 lbs
In the US there are 28,000,000 people with a BMI over 40
Not good
This post was edited on 8/12/20 at 8:41 pm
Posted on 8/12/20 at 9:03 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Very interesting that the 25-29 BMI range fared better than the 20-24 BMI range in almost every category. Obviously within margin of error, so for all intents and purposes they are the same.
Seems if you are less than retirement age and have less than a 30 BMI, you are safe as you can be.
Seems if you are less than retirement age and have less than a 30 BMI, you are safe as you can be.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:00 pm to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
Hydroxychloroquine works in high-risk patients, and saying otherwise is dangerous
Basically says the studies have been bad. FDA and CDC stonewalling and it must be taken before someone has serious issues from COVID.
Basically says the studies have been bad. FDA and CDC stonewalling and it must be taken before someone has serious issues from COVID.
Posted on 8/13/20 at 6:50 am to lsu13lsu
quote:This is such a fricking cop out for the study
and it must be taken before someone has serious issues from COVID.
“In our study of a virus where 99.7% of people survive no matter what, HCQ works as long as you don’t give it to someone really sick”
Posted on 8/13/20 at 7:47 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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Very interesting that the 25-29 BMI range fared better than the 20-24 BMI range in almost every category.
Having worked with a lot of sick old people over the years I’ve always anecdotally felt that those in their 70s and 80s who had a little extra weight are significantly stronger than those who are a leaner. They tend to bounce back a bit better from a lot of illnesses requiring hospitalization.
Almost like if you can make it through middle age/early senior years without that bit of extra weight causing issues it makes you a little sturdier.
Posted on 8/13/20 at 8:18 am to WaWaWeeWa
From what or where is this data?
Likely because there are still so few deaths under 60, regardless of BMI.
But this lends some credence as to why obesity has been a comorbidity in <20% of the deaths in Louisiana.
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I’d like to see tighter error bars but there is a clear trend.
Likely because there are still so few deaths under 60, regardless of BMI.
But this lends some credence as to why obesity has been a comorbidity in <20% of the deaths in Louisiana.
This post was edited on 8/13/20 at 8:20 am
Posted on 8/13/20 at 9:39 am to Sasquatch Smash
Posted on 8/13/20 at 10:11 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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Very interesting that the 25-29 BMI range fared better than the 20-24 BMI range in almost every category. Obviously within margin of error, so for all intents and purposes they are the same
The lower end of normal is 18.5 not 20. A BMI 18.5 or 19 male has literally no muscle mass (this is your 6'0" 135 lb guy). If you're male and pull this off, you've never ran/swam, or done anything that would even accidentally get your heart or muscles into shape...or you're on a tremendous amount of meth.
On the lower end of overweight is your 6'0" 185lb male. Plenty of guys can be fully healthy at this weight (although many can probably trim down some more, the difference is not going to tie into any appreciable change in health outcomes).
So, the "normal group" is weiged down by 135lb meth addicts filling in that BMI 19 slot.
The BMI 28-29 overweight folks who should probably be considered obese get an uplift from the BMI 25 males who are in fairly good shape making that group look better than it is.
Posted on 8/13/20 at 10:19 am to BRIllini07
quote:BMI is also a very crude measure. There is a big difference between subcutaneous fat and visceral fat. A 29 BMI that holds most of his fat viscerally (beer gut) vs a 29 BMI that holds most of his fat on legs, back, etc are two different levels of health.
The BMI 28-29 overweight folks who should probably be considered obese get an uplift from the BMI 25 males who are in fairly good shape making that group look better than it is.
Posted on 8/13/20 at 11:10 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
Univeristy of Alabama school tested 30,000 students for covid: 0.83% positive rate
Does that not make the state testing data seem like bullshite wrapped in bullshite to you?
State data hovers around 10-15% for that age group, yet they test 30,000 students and get a 0.83% return?
LINK
Does that not make the state testing data seem like bullshite wrapped in bullshite to you?
State data hovers around 10-15% for that age group, yet they test 30,000 students and get a 0.83% return?
LINK
Posted on 8/13/20 at 11:36 am to S1C EM
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This thing has spanned globally from November to now with no real slowdown that can't be attributed to severe lockdown situations in most countries. You and I both know a large contingent of folks expected that it would be less prevalent as things heated up.
Things have not heated up. Not globally. It is winter in the Southern Hemisphere.
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