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re: COPs on DwI giving bs eye test

Posted on 4/30/18 at 9:23 am to
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
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Posted on 4/30/18 at 9:23 am to
it's a bullshite test. They use it to see if you are drunk or high, yet the test isn't admissible in court.
Posted by Hammertime
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/30/18 at 9:23 am to
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You can appeal the license suspension
This guy gets it. IIRC, you only have a couple of days to a week to appeal the suspension. People usually dick around and don't have a lawyer or get one quickly enough to appeal it
Posted by JamesLang
Member since Mar 2018
388 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 9:39 am to
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the test isn't admissible in court


Why do y'all keep saying this?
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 4/30/18 at 9:42 am to
People are retarded. Anything you do from the time the cop first sees you goes to court. It's called evidence
Posted by dwr353
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/30/18 at 9:49 am to
They would rather rely on urban legend and legal consul from bar-room lawyers. It is the OT way.
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 4/30/18 at 9:53 am to
I'm no lawyer, but I definitely know what goes on before, during, and after a DWI
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 12:28 am to
Ok, it's admissible, but it's results aren't accepted as damning like a breathalyzer or standard field sobriety.
Posted by TchoupitoulasTiger
NOLA
Member since May 2011
1330 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 12:56 am to
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You can appeal the license suspension


Yes you can- but appealing the license suspension means “suing” DPS and takes place in civil court. The state’s burden for probable cause is lower than in criminal court.
Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
Member since Feb 2015
11727 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 3:12 am to
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Don't ever do those tests. Make them pull blood


If you know you will fail, do not submit to taking the test.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
39646 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 4:18 am to
I had a cop give me the eye test one night on the interstate- I had been drinking but I had stopped in plenty of time to drive. I passed but it still scared the crap out of me. It’s pretty intimidating
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 8:30 am to
I haven't gotten one in 8 years, but before then, your attorney could absolutely go and appeal the license suspension. It has to be done before they get the chance to formally suspend it (< 1 week). It does not take place in civil court.

I never lost my license or had a hardship license for any of mine
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
124983 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 8:34 am to
Those license suspensions are overturned all of the time. It's a nice scare tactic for MADD and message board posters, though
Posted by JamesLang
Member since Mar 2018
388 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 9:19 am to
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Those license suspensions are overturned all of the time.




No they aren't. When you appeal the suspension it is assigned to an administrative law judge at the Division of Administrative Law. The ALJs uphold over 80% of the suspensions.
This post was edited on 5/2/18 at 9:21 am
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
23099 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 9:24 am to
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The ALJs uphold over 80% of the suspensions.



Given the number of license suspensions for DUI, 20% is probably a pretty significant number.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
124983 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 9:28 am to
He pulled that number out of his arse, and further, you can apply for a hardship license after a certain period of time given that you are in school or gainfully employed. No lawyer would tell you to blow and risk certain DUI over facing a goddamn license suspension.
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 9:42 am to
It's like a thief giving cops a cell phone video of himself stealing shite. Why give the police evidence against yourself if you don't have to?

Like I said earlier, I've never lost my license. Just have a lawyer ready to go
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
9189 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 9:43 am to
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I haven't gotten one in 8 years, but before then, your attorney could absolutely go and appeal the license suspension. It has to be done before they get the chance to formally suspend it (< 1 week). It does not take place in civil court. I never lost my license or had a hardship license for any of mine



This. But first you have an administrative hearing and then you have so long to appeal if the judge goes against your lawyers argument to keep your license. I appealed mine and never had mine suspended. My lawyers provided(emailed) a temp permit every 4 months until is was over with.
Posted by Tortious
ATX
Member since Nov 2010
5770 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 6:39 pm to
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My lawyers provided(emailed) a temp permit every 4 months until is was over with.


Advice - go the next day after being in the clink and get a replacement license. The license isn't actually suspended until statutory delay (30 days, 40, etc.) from revocation for failure to blow and then not during the pendency of hearing. It will issue and you will have a real license and don't have to use paper until the time is up or you lose hearing/appeals.
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