re: Cop shoots teen during Michigan traffic stop, lawsuit filed (possibly NSFW)

where did the bullets hit the kid? i think i've seen a different video here that showed the kid moving away from the officer. the kid was complying with the officer.. but slowly.

i'm not really sure the officer should have even used the taser. talk about escalating a situation.

sad fact is that near 50% of cops in the country are bad at their job

Refusing to comply with a lawful request.


Folks, regardless of if you think it is common courtesy, flashing your brights is against the law in Michigan. This guy didn't pass it. Cops may not have even had a hand in pushing for passing it.

And he even said he didn't issue citations for the other guys he pulled over to the kid. It's just a routine traffic stop, tells the perp to stop it, and let's them go.

Part of a routine traffic stop is checking for warrants and insurance.

But yeah, the cop is tuning his lights bright as a trap

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sigh . .


The traffic violation he stopped him for, resisting by not complying with identifying himself.

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If anything the cop was the one with the traffic violation

The cop was the one violating the traffic law if his headlights were bright enough to look like high beams. But I know laws don't apply to cops.

Either way with the cop knowing his headlights were too bright he there was absolutely no reason for him to stop the guy other than him wanting too to exert his power

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The cop was the one violating the traffic law if his headlights were bright enough to look like high beams.

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Link to this law, and link to the aftermarket lights you could install that exceeds the lumen limit without brights.

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Either way with the cop knowing his headlights were too bright he there was absolutely no reason for him to stop the guy other than him wanting too to exert his power

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Well, that or.....the law written by the legislature.

What what he should do? Ignore enforcing some laws until he gets a new install? I think holding off on giving actual tickets and just issuing warnings like he did is a pretty reasonable compromise that flies in the face of the assertion of "him wanting to assert his power."

All the kid had to do was hand over his license and insurance, as is standard in ANY traffic stop, and once the cop saw it was clean the kid would have gone on with no ticket just like the other drivers the cop pulled over that night for the same reason.

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Sad thing, he has a family somewhere who will be sad for the rest of their lives. What a dumbass kid.

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what good was that family doing for him? since he can't respect lawful authority...

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so many think that they have a right to refuse lawful orders given by police during traffic stops.

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these are our liberals. these are our Obama voters. these are our SJWs

Do you read the news? LA State Police make massive drug bust weekly on I-10 and 12 by stopping cars with a tail light out or expired inspection sticker. He WAS looking for a bigger fish to fry. That is exactly why he let the others off that night with just a warning.

Or, do you just want cops to not do their jobs? Bitch at what they do, then bitch when they do nothing. Awesome.

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i'm not really sure the officer should have even used the taser. talk about escalating a situation.

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I agree, but that is how they are trained to respond. So who do you blame?

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sad fact is that near 50% of cops in the country are bad at their job

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50% is probably a pretty safe assumption but I don't know that's is fair to blame the cop. They aren't given the tools to handle things like this and police department doesn't exactly advertise that they have poor training. Most cops go through they entire career with a false sense of security, simply because they are ignorant. Ignorance is actually bliss sometimes.

I think we can all agree on a few things

- People shouldn't have to comply with orders from a cop, simply because they are cop.

- Cops can't just walk away from some annoying kid who refuses to listen to lawful orders.

So what was he supposed to do? His training is what fricked him over. He escalated the situation with a taser by using it as means to intimidate and that's what bit him in the arse. When that kid decided he had enough, the cop panicked and shot the kid out of fear. The fear was genuine, make no mistake about it. I'm willing to bet this cop used his taser to intimidate people without issue, dozens times. He's probably never fired his service weapon outside of a pistol range.

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What should they do? Cops in this day and age aren't out to escalate and shoot people, so best believe if it happens they deserve it

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It would be ridiculous to believe that cops are out screwing with people, hoping that they get to kill someone. However, I'm sure it has happened. I personally know a BRPD cop who was tickled pink he got to shoot at someone, or so he claims.

If a cops walks up to me out the blue and demands I follow his commands, why should I have to listen to him? If he shoves his gun in my face, well that's a different story all together. I like being right, but not dead right.